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OK, I have been waiting for this release for about nearly 2 years is it?

My question is, does it exist, are we being suckered along for what ever reason?

I do not know about anybody else but my patience is wearing very very very thin.

If you post Strong critisism on there Ibrowse Yahoo list, several people will jump on you and say things like, leave them alone they are doing a great job getting this release ready.

On top of that you get the damn Beta testers telling everyone how wonderful 2.3 is and how it is better than 2.2.

I suppose this will get the same response as on the list, they have other thing to do, they are busy, it has not been worked on for over a year.

PLEASE FIX A DAMN DATE, WHEN THAT DATE ARRIVES, RELEASE IT. Then work on the rest. it must be better than crash happy 2.2.

I do not think 2.3 exists, it is all being said to keep us strung along using Amiga's

Ibrowse 2.3, smile your on Candid Camera.


Rant over.........

[Stom]

Hullo Washac

ok,

1/ To my knowledge IB2.3 is going to be included with OS4 as the browser software.

2/ have a look at the webpage:http://www.ibrowse-dev.net/

hope this shines some light on your plight

Cheerio

[futaura]

Well, there are at least 5 people on the mailing list who have been testing the IBrowse 2.3 release candidates internally, so although you don't have physical proof, it does exist. I'm sure those who visited the AmiGBG fair in Sweden will be able to confirm it's existance too. And why would we bother to go to the effort to setup an IBrowse website if there were do be no future releases? Feel free to continue thinking otherwise if you so desire :roll:

We do have other things to do, but that doesn't mean IBrowse is not being worked on - over the last 12 months alone, a huge amount of work has been done on IBrowse. And only this week I have spent many, many hours rewriting a fundamental part of the JavaScript engine (a part which is broken in AWeb and Voyager too, btw).

It's true that the IBrowse 2.3 release is long overdue, but it wouldn't be right to release it until we are happy that it is in a releasable state. And the beta testers don't always "tell everyone how wonderful 2.3 is and how it is better than 2.2" - what we try to do is answer everybody's queries as best we can, which helps assure people that we have looked at the problems they've reported and whether we have fixed them for 2.3 (and if not, why not). I'm sure the majority of people would prefer we didn't remain completely silent.

Forgive me if I'm not too excited, but thier website is finally letting me in, and I find nothing to be excited about.

Let me sum it up like this.

Amiga OS4 needs a browser BAD!!!

and I'm not talkin' bout Ibrowse.

[adam]

The site ibrowse-dev is a regular xml/xhtml site.
Does it mean that Ibrowse will be xml enabled ?

[Targhan]

Well, I want to tell ya' not to feel so bad, but you should have
gotten Voyager if you wanted timely updates! Seriously, if the
IBrowse team went to the trouble of getting a website set-up, they are
getting ready for a release.

Though, I do wonder why the new site isn't "Omnipresence Intl"..?

[Marky_D_Sahd]

Oh for goodness sake! Sometimes it feels like half the posts here are griping about how Amiga'a browswers need to be so much better, and the other half is spent griping that development is taking too long and "maybe it's not coming anyway." PUH-LEASE! Use 2.2 (Not at all bad, in my opinion) and let the good folk make 2.3 as good as they want it to be. Then they've promised to start on 3.0! I am impatient, too, but I can at least recognise that it's MY problem, not theirs!

Yeah, well...

Anyway...

Amiga OS4 needs a browser BAD!!!

[Kay]

> and I'm not talkin' bout Ibrowse.

Well, I disagree. IBrowse is the best Amiga browser today. It needs better Javascript and a little more stability, but as far as I've understood, that's being worked on. With more frequent updates, IBrowse can be a very good browser for AOS4.

As for Voyager, it's too unstable for me. And as far as I've understood, there's no PPC native Amiga version planned (correct me if I'm wrong), so it's a bit of a dead end in that respect.

Kay

[Warrent]

"and let the good folk make 2.3 as good as they want it to be. Then they've promised to start on 3.0! I am impatient, too, but I can at least recognise that it's MY problem, not theirs!"

I found that interesting comment "MY problem . . "

I think that point covers a lot of what is happening with the Amiga (or not happening). I am an end user. It is my choice to use what is out there now. All the other stuff is in the hands of others. If I choose not to wait then that is MY choice. Yes, it is frustrating waiting, I would love to have Ibrowse2.3, heck, I would love to have Ibrowse3.x with all the updates to use on any site I wish, but . . . that is not going to happen by tomorrow or next month or . . . so, I can enjoy using what I am using now and wait or I can CHOOSE whatever is out there now and enjoy using it. Banging on people to get a product out dosen't seem to help. Heck, if someone wants to make their own browser, then they could sell it to others and we all we then be happy right :-)

[Nick]

The only thing stopping me saying to everybody "come here and buy this new machine" is the fact that our current browsers don`t hold their own well against others. They are good, but they don`t support everything. JAVA, CSS, Flash/Shockwave etc. Its sort of embarassing. :-x

[Piru]

> As for Voyager, it's too unstable for me.

It's getting better. Haven't crashed 3.3.123 yet.

> And as far as I've understood, there's no PPC
> native Amiga version planned (correct me if I'm wrong)

Voyager PPC-BETA 3.3.123 (2002-04-02)

Oh and it's pretty damn fast.

>, so it's a bit of a dead end in that respect.

Not quite.

[Marky_D_Sahd]

Yer barkin' up the wrong tree. Java can't be supported in a browser if it's not supported by the OS. If you want Flash support, just go to the Macromedia web page, download the Amiga versio, install it and go! What, no Amiga version? Then THAT'S where your complaint should be, NOT with the browser. Same goes for REAL, Windows, etc. All of those provisions are controlled by forces other than the browser programmers (although better plug-in capability would benefit ALL of the Amiga browsers).
Good pojects take time to complete. In the mean time, start politely reminding REAL et al that Amiga is back, and we °ould be thrilled to spend our money on their projects.

[lurkist]

As far as I can tell, Ibrowse and Voyager are about
level pegging in the Browser Wars, with each nipping
each other as updates are released. As a registered
user of both, I too eagerly await IB 2.3.<br>
As for JAVA, Flash and so on, WHO CARES??? I have
found that between them, IB and V can cope with most
of what the 'net throws at em.

[mahen]

But Voyager DOES support flash, doesn't it ?