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Old 07-01-2008, 01:11 AM   #31
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Default Re: MorphOS 2.0 Released

Because they wont sell more than 5 copies
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Old 07-01-2008, 01:45 AM   #32
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Default Re: MorphOS 2.0 Released

Any info about the Mac Mini version?
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Old 07-01-2008, 01:50 AM   #33
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Default Re: MorphOS 2.0 Released

2 more weeks!
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Old 07-01-2008, 01:59 AM   #34
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Default Re: MorphOS 2.0 Released

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Oh wow! That's pretty steep! OSX 10.5 is cheaper than that, how do they justify that price?
Hmm, in comparison, OS4 for classics is 85 euro.. but an EFIKA costs much less (and easier to find), is faster, and is more reliable than a CyberstormPPC.
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Old 07-01-2008, 02:40 AM   #35
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Default Re: MorphOS 2.0 Released

# of man hours development effort?

# of expected sales?

support?

because they can?

All I can say is MorphOS is a great product...had lots of fun with it over the years...bailed earlier this year due to finances...so I guess the price wouldn't help me either :-/
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Old 07-01-2008, 03:07 AM   #36
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Default Re: MorphOS 2.0 Released

I must say that I think that the comparison to OSX is unfair:

1) Apple ships A LOT of copies, and can therfore recoup their development cost on a much lower item cost
2) Sales of OSX is just a "platform" for Apple to earn money on oter products such as iTunes and iPod
3) I think that even with an item price of €500 and the same number of sold products as with a €150 tag, its still a loss project.

I think that they must have some investors backing them, thinking that the OS can one day become a good os to sell to embedded devices (such as tvs etc). And that sales of the OS to the amiga community serves two purposes:
1) A thank-you and nod to its legacy and roots
2) An acid test where they can meassure its success

To eradicate any doubts: I think the price is fair, and that the Morph dev team deserves a big hand. I have just done my big amiga purchases (mediator and tower) so I will be waiting a little before I buy efika and morph2, but I will!

Allthough, it would be cool with sam440flex and morph, but Im not holding my breathe for that to happen... Considering where I suspect the morph dev team gets their funding from, and that sam and efika are competitors
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Old 07-01-2008, 03:08 AM   #37
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Default Re: MorphOS 2.0 Released

Ive been waiting for m2.0 for quite a while, and been all excited.. but I'm not paying that price and 200$ for the efika+vid card and then 175$usd for morphos, no matter how interested. 128mb is too small imo. 256mb and I'd be all over it, thats at least usefull if I need to fallback to linux, 128 not so much, plus no altivec.

Lets hope when efika2 comes out and its all super boosted, that it doesnt take so long to get a working morphos for it.

The complete total for me (efika/case/gfx card/cf2ide/morphos) is over my tipping point in finances by about $100

deep sigh. I'll just have to be more envious of those who can grab it and use it
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Old 07-01-2008, 03:28 AM   #38
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Well done guys

Wish I hadn't sold my PegII now :roll:

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Old 07-01-2008, 03:36 AM   #39
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Default Re: MorphOS 2.0 Released

I would spend those 150 Euros without hesitation if I could run it o my Mac Mini PowerPC: I got this system hoping some Amiga OS could be used on it (after seing those OS4 and Morphos running on Mac Mini PPC videos).
It's sad, as I KNOW both systems can be run in a Mac Mini G4, but no usefull info is available anywere.
I really, really hope MAC MINI support will be added in the future: OSX is pure bloatware (the only good thing about it is that it's not Windows) and Linux TOTALLY lacks semi-decent Amiga emulation: E-UAE, yes... Mr "I will tear forever with your favorite demos and games! There's no way to make me sync with your monitor refresh!! You'll NEVER get perfectly smoth AMIGA scroll with me!! Waaahaha!!" ruins the experience to unusability for me.

So only Morphos remains as a hope for my Mac Mini G4 nowadays...
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Old 07-01-2008, 03:42 AM   #40
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Default Re: MorphOS 2.0 Released

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I would spend those 150 Euros without hesitation if I could run it o my Mac Mini PowerPC: I got this system hoping some Amiga OS could be used on it (after seing those OS4 and Morphos running on Mac Mini PPC videos).
Welcome to the club. :-D
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Old 07-01-2008, 03:44 AM   #41
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Default Re: MorphOS 2.0 Released

what runs on it?
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Old 07-01-2008, 04:46 AM   #42
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Default Re: MorphOS 2.0 Released

@stefcep2: most important for me is the inverse: "what runs it on?"

@colanil1200: Shouln't we set up a petition, a dedicated website or something, promoting SOME KIND OF REAL, NATIVE Amiga OS running on the Mac Mini G4?? I think there's A LOT of people who did the same thing as we both and ran for a Mac Mini G4 as soon they saw what this NIIICE, silent, powerfull machine can do! It's the most sexy AMIGA ever!
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Old 07-01-2008, 05:25 AM   #43
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Default Re: MorphOS 2.0 Released

I don't want to complain about the low-spec hardware or the high software price either. I just want to thank the people who gave me the opportunity to buy a new OS AND some new hardware to run it. Thanks to the Efika developers and BIG thanks to the MorphOS development team.

PS: Some of the people complaining about the low hardware specs of the Efika probably paid much more $$$ to buy Blizard PPC's & Cyberstorms - even 060s! Is that fair?
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Old 07-01-2008, 05:32 AM   #44
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Default Re: MorphOS 2.0 Released

Excellent news! I'll be home in 3 weeks and it will be time to blow the dust off my Efika and put it to use.

I've never used MorphOS so it will be interesting to see what my first impressions are. I apreciate the time-limited demo. How long will it work?

The installation seems easy enough: put the install image on a USB flash drive (FAT formatted I assume) and shove it in the Efika. I have various 2.5" IDE drives on shelves and I'll probably use a 10GB or 20GB one for testing which raises the question as to how to partition and format them. I guess after typing "boot scsi:0 morphos-2.0-efikainstall.img" I'll be able to access some sort of "HD Toolbox". Do I need a 4GB FFS "System" partition or can I just have one big 10GB or 20GB partition?
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Old 07-01-2008, 05:53 AM   #45
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@gaula92: As long as the court case is going on and Amiga Inc. is involved in any ways, such a petition would pretty much be a waste of energy.
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