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Old 05-15-2008, 10:14 AM   #1
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Default New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation

I do not know if I am supposed to post this or not, but I am really pissed about this. I am not going to go off onto a tirade, because I am sure that most people here feel the way I do right now. Unfortunately, this kind of activity will ultimately force people who have waited for 10 years or more like I have for another run of the Guru Book to fall back on the pirated version. Sickening.

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APC&TCP: Project Guru Book Reprint Discontinued

It is already known that we try to reprint the English Amiga Guru Book by Ralph Babel.
Some additions were also planned to the original book.

The German Amiga Guru Book is available for some time now.

Nevertheless some Amiga users needed to put some pirated copies of the book online.

The print material is ready and actually we wanted to give it to the printing press.

But since several weeks there is a torrent with a pirated copy of the English Amiga Guru Book
online.

Due to the fact that some Amiga users don't show up any support towards those who keep their
platform up and try to supply them with information this project is hereby discontinued.

That's why the Amiga Future project AGG which should be financed through the reprint has also been
discontinued.

Original statement by Ralph Babel:

Unfortunately, the release of the 800-page extended edition of the Amiga Guru Book (covering OS 3.x
and beyond) scheduled for April was preempted by some fool seeding a scan of the older version into
one of those pirate-to-pirate networks, eliminating all hopes of me ever being able to recover the
cost of a reprint, so the project had to be stopped immediately to avoid further loss of time and
money. Thank you, Keith.

http://babel.de
http://www.apc-tcp.de
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Old 05-15-2008, 10:47 AM   #2
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Default Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation



and towards the pirates



I'm not a coder, but I have a lot of friends who are and they were waiting for this book! UG!!! This is one of the reasons the Amiga was hamstrung back in the 90's...
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Old 05-15-2008, 10:48 AM   #3
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Default Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation

What a cop out. 95% of the people who would want that book would have bought it. I've been waiting for this book and now we get this crap excuse for not printing it.
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Old 05-15-2008, 10:51 AM   #4
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Default Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation

I am also very angered by this turn of events. I have been waiting for this book for a few years.

I would be interested in participating in any effort to generate enough prepaid book sales to allow Ralph Babel to go forward with the updated version of the book in English.
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Old 05-15-2008, 10:51 AM   #5
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Default Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation

Shocking and scandalous!

On a slightly unrelated topic, what’s a guru book?
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:12 AM   #6
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Default Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation

Quote:
APC&TCP: Project Guru Book Reprint Discontinued

It is already known that we try to reprint the English Amiga Guru Book by Ralph Babel.
Some additions were also planned to the original book.

The German Amiga Guru Book is available for some time now.

Nevertheless some Amiga users needed to put some pirated copies of the book online.

The print material is ready and actually we wanted to give it to the printing press.

But since several weeks there is a torrent with a pirated copy of the English Amiga Guru Book
online.

Due to the fact that some Amiga users don't show up any support towards those who keep their
platform up and try to supply them with information this project is hereby discontinued.

That's why the Amiga Future project AGG which should be financed through the reprint has also been
discontinued.

Original statement by Ralph Babel:

Unfortunately, the release of the 800-page extended edition of the Amiga Guru Book (covering OS 3.x
and beyond) scheduled for April was preempted by some fool seeding a scan of the older version into
one of those pirate-to-pirate networks, eliminating all hopes of me ever being able to recover the
cost of a reprint, so the project had to be stopped immediately to avoid further loss of time and
money. Thank you, Keith.

http://babel.de
http://www.apc-tcp.de
This is absolutely stupid, by cancelling the official publication, he is forcing people to use the pirate copy, and legitimizing the pirate channel as the only way of getting that which most current amiga users are perfectly willing to pay for.
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:20 AM   #7
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Default Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation

I would purchase a legitimate copy if available. I hope they reconsider and release it.
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:29 AM   #8
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Default Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation

Simple solution: take pre-orders. If there are enough to cover costs then print the books. If not, then nothing is lost.

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Old 05-15-2008, 11:35 AM   #9
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Default Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation

I totally agree with you.

Three facts:
I did not know of this pirated torrent.
I would have bought the book.
I am still interested in buying it.
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:39 AM   #10
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Default Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation

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Simple solution: take pre-orders. If there are enough to cover costs then print the books. If not, then nothing is lost.

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Isn't that what I said?

Let's start a list of those that are willing to pre-pay.
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:49 AM   #11
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I'd pre pay. Stick a poll up.
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:53 AM   #12
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Default Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation

Considering the current amiga org policy regarding piracy.. where is the torrent link!?
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Old 05-15-2008, 12:11 PM   #13
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Well. I had no idea about the torrent but have been after this book for ages and would buy it. Now I'll have to settle for the torrent.. or an expensive ebay auction (when the book comes up about once every 3 years!)

What a silly reaction!
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Old 05-15-2008, 12:16 PM   #14
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I am interested in buying it.
I would buy a pdf version if it helps.
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Old 05-15-2008, 12:17 PM   #15
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Really? Some of these websites offer to print your book for $1,000 dollars. Why couldn't he re-coup the money?
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