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Old 08-07-2003, 03:18 AM   #16
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i440BX does not offer 133MHz Official support - only 66 and 100MHz...of course it can handle 133MHZ plus plus FSB but your AGP and PCI buses are overclocked...Some BX boards keep PCI at 33MHz while FSB is set to 133MHZ which is a must if u don't want HD corruptions...Your AGP bus runs at 89MHz abit higher than 66MHz official speed...BUT almost every graphics card can cope with 89MHz AGP
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Old 08-07-2003, 03:17 PM   #17
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Hi all,

Reading this thread got me thinking, whilst I'm uprgrading the A2000, I could use my machine like this.

Where can I get Amiathon, I know about Aros but as it's not anywhere near finished I would prefer the other one.

What hardware do they use? can I use a laptop or is the hardware dependancy to bad for that?
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Old 08-07-2003, 03:22 PM   #18
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Hi all,

Reading this thread got me thinking, whilst I'm uprgrading the A2000, I could use my machine like this.

Where can I get Amiathon, I know about Aros but as it's not anywhere near finished I would prefer the other one.

What hardware do they use? can I use a laptop or is the hardware dependancy to bad for that?
Amithlon is ilegal :-( (your best bet is UAE on Linux).
AROS is free, and it will work on your laptop.
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Old 08-07-2003, 03:28 PM   #19
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If thats the case, why are so many people using it?
Not arguing, just curious.

OK, I'll try Aros and let you all know how I get on.
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Old 08-07-2003, 03:32 PM   #20
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I also tried to build my Amithlon machine out of a Celeron 366 Mhz with SB128 sound and GeForce II MX 400 64 Mb PCI. I'm missing a network card with the rtl8039chipset though ... nevertheless the system works perfect with 384 Mb Fast Ram and 8 Mb Chip Ram. But, from the moment that I start to play a game on an original cd with gfx card support I get problems. It simply won't work. Don't know why. I do need to install MUI but don't think it has got to do with games not working. I know that AGA support is not exactly present so I try only games with RTG ....
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If thats the case, why are so many people using it?
Not arguing, just curious.

OK, I'll try Aros and let you all know how I get on.
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If you bought Amithlon when Bernie was being paid for it, then it is legal :-) ... any copies sold now are illegal (Since Bernie is not being paid) :-(

AROS is fun :-)
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Old 08-07-2003, 04:12 PM   #22
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Buy a Pegasos and run MorphOS.
You got it wrong the qestion was what to run amithlon or aros on a pc. not buy a new system. :-?
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Amithlon is ilegal
but it is sold buy hartge and partner and power computing as a legal product therefore i would buy it. :-o
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but it is sold buy hartge and partner and power computing as a legal product therefore i would buy it. :-o
Then it depends if you feel Bernie should be paid for his product or not.
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Old 08-07-2003, 05:35 PM   #25
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Hello people These days I am really thinking of bulding a PC which will work as an Amiga Like Box. Let me share my thought with you. I am gonna built a Computer based on 815 chipset, Celeron 533MHz, 256MB SDRAM, 1GB HD and ATI Rage 128 Pro graphics Card. It is gonna be an Amiga experiment. I have Amithlon and I have downloaded Aros. What you think that is gonna be the best emulation? I have also the idea to boot in Windows and load WinUAE ar Amiga In A Box and then Amiga is Real Thanx in advance
Just a reminder to anyone building a PC for Amithlon : make sure of compatibility first. There is lots and lots of hardware that will not work at all or will only work poorly with Amithlon.

My sixty-second guide to compatibility is :

CPUs: Pretty much anything except oddballs like the VIA C3 or Transmeta Crusoe. Pentium 4s work, but are not a good choice.

Chipsets: Intel Slot-1 or S-370 chipsets are okay, as are the VIA KX-133 and KT-133. The KT266/333/400 work, but only do hard disk DMA with my beta kernel.

Graphics: Matrox G-series and nVidia TNT/GeForce cards are the only ones that work fully. GeForce 4s require my beta kernel to work. Cards like the Voodoo 3/4/5, ATI Rage, ATI Radeon, S3 Savage and SiS stuff either don't work or will only give you a slow 60Hz 640x480 screen.

Sound: VIA AC'97 audio (KX133/KT133), SoundBlaster 128 (ES1371/1373/5880 chips only) are supported by default. The latest AHI build adds a SoundBlaster Live driver.

Network: NICs based on RealTek RTL8029 and 8139D chips only.

The Amithlon, AmithlonOpen and AmithlonDev lists on YahooGroups are very good sources for more information.

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Old 08-07-2003, 05:41 PM   #26
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or buy an amigaone and run os4, whenever its finished..
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Old 08-08-2003, 06:21 AM   #27
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I thought the RTL8139 wouldn't work, at least not with the Amithlon cd that I have. Used to have such a network card in my pc but couldn't access the net with it ... :-?
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Old 08-08-2003, 06:28 AM   #28
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I thought the RTL8139 wouldn't work, at least not with the Amithlon cd that I have. Used to have such a network card in my pc but couldn't access the net with it ...
You can get a driver at http://www.chez.com/titan/OpenPciUK.html.
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Old 08-08-2003, 07:11 AM   #29
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I was thinking of doing something very simular (but I'd have to use new parts as I haven't got access to 2nd hand). But I saw a cheap shuttle design thet took Socket 370 and had six channel sound, tv out etc. and a celeron 1.4Ghz. (£170 inc VAT + Delivery) Should give it enough zip. I've been looking for a settop type box to play DVDs, MP3 and Digital TV solution and emulate Amiga stuff. Seemed quite good only I heard the Shuttles make a lot of noise so wouldn't be a good under my TV!

Now I'm interested in iTX. And I might not have to get a PC box after all...roll on the Amiga One Lite!
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Old 08-08-2003, 02:31 PM   #30
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Not to sure about other Shuttle boxes, but my SB51, Pentium 4 case is reasonably quiet. It's on all the time and in the front room too!!!!!

They run using a heat pipe instead of a standard heatsink and fan, search on www.google.com for more info.
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