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Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ
« on: December 20, 2007, 12:51:33 PM »
I am thinking of starting an unofficial AmigaOS 4 for Classics FAQ on my website.

If you have any ideas or Q&A entries you have, can you reply here so I add them to the web site.

The AmigaOS 3.9 FAQ can be found here:
http://www.gregdonner.org/os39faq/os39faq.html

My website is:
http://www.pcguru.plus.com
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Re: Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2007, 01:47:31 PM »
Q: When will it run on Macshitosh?
A: Never.
 :-P


on a serious note, you should probably put requirements first..
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Re: Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2007, 02:55:22 PM »
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pjhutch wrote:
I am thinking of starting an unofficial AmigaOS 4 for Classics FAQ on my website.

If you have any ideas or Q&A entries you have, can you reply here so I add them to the web site.

The AmigaOS 3.9 FAQ can be found here:
http://www.gregdonner.org/os39faq/os39faq.html

My website is:
http://www.pcguru.plus.com


Great idea mate. I think both of your links are very useful 8-)



OS4 question:-

How do I get my ToolsDaemon to work in OS4?

(I've put the usual files from my OS3.9 system into S, L, Prefs and WBStartup but OS4 just hangs when I attempt to use  it)


:pint:


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Re: Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2007, 05:12:08 PM »
ToolsDaemon is a hack of a program and not really a WB friendly program. Have you tries ToolManager instead or Dopus Megallan?
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Re: Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2007, 05:37:57 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't TD *ADDED* to OS4? o_O
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Re: Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2007, 06:52:54 PM »
Ihave no idea what is included with AmigaOS 4 so I cannot confirm that.

Has any one got a directory listing of what is on the CD?
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Re: Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2007, 08:08:39 PM »
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Methuselas wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't TD *ADDED* to OS4?


I am unable to find it in my OS4 installation mate.


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Has any one got a directory listing of what is on the CD?


Here's a grab of DirectoryOpus4 (OS4 version :-D) showing the contents of the OS4 CD. No sign of ToolsDaemon anywhere in there....



Just to clarify exactly what I am looking for, this screengrab shows the 4 components of the ToolsDaemon that has worked brilliantly in OS3.9....



The original ToolsDaemon gave one extra menu called 'Utils'. By some fluke I was able to add more titles which went right across the top of the Workbench screen. Hence, I could launch many more progs and utils without even having to open up a partition.

Here is one of my 'ToolsDaemon.menu' files:-

TITLE Utils
    ITEM DirectoryOpus
    (WB) "Work:Dopus/DirectoryOpus" []
    ITEM HiFi
    (WB) "Workbench3.9:Utilities/Amplifier/Amplifier" []
    ITEM ADF-Blitzer
    (WB) "Work:Tools/ADF-Blitzer/ADF-Blitzer" []
    ITEM Wordworth4SE
    (WB) "Work:Productivity/Textprocessing/Wordworth" []
    ITEM PPaint
    (WB) "Work:Productivity/Graphics/PPaint" []
    ITEM PlayCD
    (WB) "Work:IDEfix97/PlayCD/PlayCD" []
    ITEM PlayCD-OS3.9
    (WB) "Workbench3.9:Utilities/PlayCD" []
    ITEM Super-Duper
    (WB) "Work:Tools/Super/Super" []
    ITEM CyberGrab
    (WB) "Work:CyberGrab/CyberGrab" []
    ITEM TextEngine
    (WB) "Work:Tools/TextEngine/TextEngine" []
    ITEM Quarterback Tools
    (WB) "Work:Tools/QB_Tools/Quarterback Tools" []
    ITEM VidiAmiga12
    (WB) "Work:Tools/VidiAmiga12/VidiAmiga12" []
    ITEM IconCopy
    (WB) "Work:Tools/IconCopy/IconCopy" []
    ITEM Doubler
    (WB) "Work:Tools/Copy/Doubler" []
    ITEM Xcopy
    (WB) "Work:Tools/Copy/XcopyPro94" []
    ITEM ABackup
    (WB) "Work:Tools/ABackup/ABackupEnglish" []
    ITEM PC Disk
    (WB) "Workbench3.9:Storage/DOSDrivers/PC0" []
    ITEM RAD Disk
    (WB) "Workbench3.9:Storage/DOSDrivers/RAD" []
    ITEM Packmaster
    (WB) "Work:Packmaster" []
    ITEM HDToolBox
    (WB) "Work:HDToolBox" []
    ITEM Workbench
    (WB) "Workbench3.9:Prefs/Workbench" []
    ITEM PhotoAlbum
    (WB) "Work:PhotoAlbum/PhotoAlbum" []
    ITEM MD51
    (WB) "Workbench3.9:Devs/DOSDrivers/DB-store/MD51" []
    ITEM WhichAmiga
    (WB) "Work:WhichAmiga/WhichAmiga" []
    ITEM SysInfo
    (WB) "Work:sysinfo/SysInfo" []
    ITEM FindDevice
    (WB) "Work:IDEfix97/FindDevice" []
    ITEM ProGRAB24
    (WB) "Work:ProGRAB24/ProGRAB24" []
    ITEM ScreenMode
    (WB) "Workbench3.9:Prefs/ScreenMode" []
    ITEM IoTools
    (WB) "Workbench3.9:Tools/IoTools" []
    ITEM Eject
    (WB) "Work:IDEfix97/Eject" []
    ITEM Collector
    (WB) "Work:Collector3.5/Collector" []
    ITEM Thumb
    (WB) "Work:PicShow/Thumb" []
    ITEM Changer
    (WB) "Ram Disk:Changer" []
    ITEM WBPattern
    (WB) "Workbench3.9:Prefs/WBPattern" []
    ITEM Shell
    (WB) "Workbench3.9:System/Shell" []
TITLE Internet
    ITEM Miami
    (WB) "Work:Internet/Miami/Miami" []
    ITEM YAM
    (WB) "Work:Internet/E-Mail/YAM" []
    ITEM Voyager
    (WB) "Work:Internet/WWW/Voyager/V" []
    ITEM AWeb
    (WB) "Workbench3.9:Internet/AWeb3SE/AWeb-II" []
END

EDIT - ToolsDaemon.menu list shortened as it was so looooooooooong!


Thanks in advance for your help :pint:


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Re: Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2007, 09:31:09 PM »
 I have ToolsDaemon working perfectly on my  Amiga1 under OS4. It is Toolsdaemon version 2.1b ... I seem to recall previous versions not working properly. I have several hundred additional menu items listed in my toolsdaemon config file.... not sure why it wouldn't work with classic.

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Re: Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2007, 11:01:32 PM »
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Has any one got a directory listing of what is on the CD?


As the maintainer of a FAQ on OS4, I think you should buy OS4.
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Re: Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2007, 11:51:05 PM »
Hmmm..... I just remembered how I got ToolsDaemon to work after I upgraded form OS3.5 to OS3.9. I had to hold down the right mouse button and select 'Backdrop' from the heading 'Workbench' at the top left of the screen. After which ToolsDaemon would work ok. I just did the same for OS4 and ToolsDaemon worked on that too :-)

(not the ideal solution though :inquisitive:)

Back then I eventually managed to get a patch for ToolsDaemon in OS3.9, so now I just need one for OS4 (or an OS4 specific version of  ToolsDaemon)


@  SCabit

Would you have a link to version 2.1b please as I can't see it here:-

http://aminet.net/search?name=toolsdaemon
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Re: Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2007, 02:44:36 AM »
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As the maintainer of a FAQ on OS4, I think you should buy OS4.


No!  Those who benefit from the FAQ should pitch in and buy it for him!

Oh, and here's the link for 2.1b.
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Re: Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2007, 06:12:36 AM »
That's what it was. 2.1b was an arrexx version or something that was no longer a hack, as of 3.9 (I don't have my Amithlon box up anymore). You can use a trick menu editor that was, IMO  way nicer than the original.
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Re: Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2007, 06:28:06 AM »
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pjhutch wrote:
I am thinking of starting an unofficial AmigaOS 4 for Classics FAQ on my website.

If you have any ideas or Q&A entries you have, can you reply here so I add them to the web site.

The AmigaOS 3.9 FAQ can be found here:
http://www.gregdonner.org/os39faq/os39faq.html

My website is:
http://www.pcguru.plus.com


Some useful info in this thread at aw.net as well.
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Re: Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2007, 09:37:26 AM »
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You can use a trick menu editor that was, IMO way nicer than the original.


Do you mean like being able to right click anywhere on the screen to get a menu? You can do this in OS4 but with ToolsDaemon installed as well you have access to all those menus too.


@ AMC258

Thanks mate, but that link goes to 'ToolsDaemon21a.lha'. Hope you get your OS4 soon if you haven't already got it.


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Re: Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2007, 10:45:18 AM »
"4. Can I use my PCI Expansion boards?

Yes, you can use expension boards such as the Mediator, Prometheus, Infinitive and RBM Onboard expanson cards. There are limitations with some peripherals
which use DMA to access memory and onboard cache which will not work on Amiga OS 4. "

So is there any possibility to hack AOS4 to use DMA? By AOS3 drivers or something??? Doesn't it mean then lack of PCI-sound? :-?
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