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Too much caffeine
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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After replacing the battery in an A4000
desktop, the system boots ok, SysInfo show's "Battery Backed Up Clock Found", but when I save the date and time setting's with OS3.9 TimePrefs, the setting's aren't retained for cold bootup, or warm reboot. I get ??/??/2011. Am I missing something obvious? I bought the new battery from Jaycar after seeing them and the product code for the battery mentioned here. Thanks. |
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Original Omega User
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After you set the time and date you must remember to do the SETCLOCK SAVE command to save it.
OOPS this pertains to using the DATE command in a shell. Not sure about OS3.9 off the top of my head.
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Desperately needs a life
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Dundee, Scotland
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Make sure the saved settings are in SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/Time.prefs (or ENVARC:Time.prefs if you know your assigns ;-) )
It might be (but highly unlikely) that it's saving the prefs into ENV: instead of ENVARC: Failing that boot from the Emergency disk and change and save the prefs on that then reboot. If that works, copy DF0:Prefs/Env-Arhive/Time.prefs to SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/Time.prefs then reboot from your HD and see if that's worked. These are the only two things I can suggest. Hope it helps.
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Too much caffeine
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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Didn't think of this when I chose
a handle. Bob was already used, but BR is kind of vague. I better start signing every post. > ![]() Bob |
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Too much caffeine
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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I tried SetClock Save with no luck. Someone
on the OS3.9 mailing list suggested SetClock Reset then SetClock ??:??/?? 07/15/2003 then SetClock Save. I'll try this sometime today and see what happens. Bob |
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Join Date: Mar 2002
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Hey, Bob,
How have you been setting the clock? Using the WB Prefs "Time" program in the Prefs drawer? That should be all you need. Did you install the battery on the MB? Or hanging out on wires? Have you tested the voltage across the battery with a meter? Are you sure the battery isn't connected back to front (it can't be if it's soldered onto the MB)? Where do you live? tony |
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Too much caffeine
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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Yes, I used the Prefs/TimePrefs before I
tried SetClock. Yes, the battery is installed on the motherboard, no wires, I have a meter but 1 of my son's lost the leads, there's no way to install this type of battery backwards, it has 2 leg's on 1 end and 1 leg on the other. Someone on the OS3.9 mailing list said I could've "lost a trace to the okidata clock chip" and this is probably what happened because nothing I've tried fixed the problem. Oh well, at least the computer still works. I live in Illinois in the USA. Bob |
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Join Date: Dec 2002
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Sounds like you have the same problem I have.
I replaced the battery on my A3K but on a re-boot it lost the time and date. I had to open the machine up again for another reason so checked out the battery while I had it open. The voltage to the battery circuit was dead. So the only way mine will work is to trace the circuit find where the circuit died. I'm not that good, so its just dead. You could download 'Atomic Clock' from Aminet and set it up to set your clock whenever you go on-line. Mel Ott :-) :-) |
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Antarctica
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Saving the time from the standard WB time program (in prefs) should write the time and date to the RTC. If you have a multimeter handy, turn the machine off and check for at least 3V between pins 18 and 9 of the RTC device, U178. If you have a scope or counter, check for approx 32kHz on pins 16 or 17 with the machine off. That gives a good indication if there is battery power there and the clock is running. You might also try replacing the clock's data latch, U177, as this sometimes causes clock read/write problems. Obviously you'll need access to SMD rework equipment for this. Hopefully you haven't damaged the RP5C01 clock, as these are obsolete and can be hard to get. Anthony. |
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Merely Curious
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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Hi there!
How are you? I also replaced the battery of my Amiga 4000, but I could net get it to work!? The previous battery had leaked, do you think something might be broken? Did I miss something? :-( Thanks! Tygre :-) |
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Original Omega User
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@Tygre
Hey there, welcome to Amiga.org:-) Did you check what was mentioned in this thread? Do you have a barrel type?
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Antarctica
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@ Tygre:
Can you be a little more specific? If the "save" button in the Time Preferences is ghosted out, it means the system cannot see the real time clock (RTC). If this is the case, then probably one of the PCB tracks around the RTC have gone open circuit due to corrosion. Sometimes the data latch U177 can die due to corrosion damage. If you have the trouble of the RTC working, but not remembering the time due to the battery not charging up, then one of the tracks that charge the battery (via the +12V line) is probably open circuit. I have schematics and stuff you can use if you have a reasnoble electronics knowledge. The circuit is very simple. |
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Defender of the Faith
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Join Date: Feb 2002
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Some things go without saying, thus I have to say them... But, make sure to leave the system running for a while to ensure a full battery charge. If the battery doesn't get a full charge, it won't hold the time settings.
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Too much caffeine
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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It save's and keeps correct time until
I reboot or turn the power off. It read's slighty below 3.6v with power off, slightly above 3.6v with power on. And I wish I knew enough about this stuff to use your advise on troubleshooting. You know your in the right place when you get more information then you know what to do with. > ![]() Bob |
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