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Wanted: GVP A530 "GURU ROM"
« on: May 22, 2007, 11:46:20 AM »
I m looking for "guru rom" for my gvp a530..is anybody know where can I get it :) thanks
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Re: Wanted: GVP A530 "GURU ROM"
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2007, 12:40:43 PM »
Can you explain a bit more about it? Are you taking about hardware or something from the floppy that comes with the card?

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Re: Wanted: GVP A530 "GURU ROM"
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2007, 12:55:12 PM »
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Can you explain a bit more about it?

Its a replacement ROM for GVP SCSI cards and the A2091, basically a driver update if I remember correctly.
Sometimes they use a different ROM and a little adaptor board is used. (sometimes=always?)
Anyhow its an upgrade, not something that comes with the card as standard.
 

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Re: Wanted: GVP A530 "GURU ROM"
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2007, 01:07:30 PM »
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Its a replacement ROM for GVP SCSI cards and the A2091, basically a driver update if I remember correctly.


Ah, okay thanks. Nothing I can help with then sadly.
 

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Re: Wanted: GVP A530 "GURU ROM"
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2007, 01:38:31 PM »
It looks like softhut have the Guru rom for the A2091 and the GVP Z2 card, dunno if the Z2 one works in an A500 card though.
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Seems the adaptor board is required, the only other site I found (after a two second google) was updates for people who already owned the Guru rom boards.
(It says on the website "These images are updates for legitimate owners of the original Guru ROM only, not an excuse for cheapskates to devalue these dealers' remaining stock." so I wont post the link to that site.

For more info on the Guru rom visit Amiga-hardware.com
 

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Re: Wanted: GVP A530 "GURU ROM"
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2007, 01:40:13 PM »
Here is the romimage Gururom 6.14.

http://babel.org/amiga/#gvp
 

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Re: Wanted: GVP A530 "GURU ROM"
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2007, 01:41:54 PM »
you mean Ralph Babel's site. no harm in providing the link as I'm almost sure SoftHut don't have them in stock anymore, and there's no way to make use of the Rom Image without the adapter board, which contains a programmed GAL chip whose interior is unknown to even Ralph Babel himself.
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Re: Wanted: GVP A530 "GURU ROM"
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2007, 05:23:44 PM »
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there's no way to make use of the Rom Image without the adapter board

Quite true.

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contains a programmed GAL chip whose interior is unknown to even Ralph Babel himself.

Surely not?! I bet he knows EXACTLY what it does, he had to code for it.

It would take 5 mins to work it out if I had one.

There HAS to be a good reason Ralph doesnt want people making anymore. Either a legal reason or personal.
 

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Re: Wanted: GVP A530 "GURU ROM"
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2007, 07:00:44 PM »
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It would take 5 mins to work it out if I had one.


Well, I have one, but I'd like another, and I can program GAL chips. What are your suggestions for working it out? If you do a google search, there was a discussion somewhere of theoretically what the GAL is doing, but I don't think anyone has ever attacked one with a logic analyzer.
 

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Re: Wanted: GVP A530 "GURU ROM"
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2007, 02:42:57 AM »
thanks for all..but what about my guru rom :) is it find to difficult? if so I will give up to looking for. I have a friend from japanese maybe he knows :) thanks again  
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Re: Wanted: GVP A530 "GURU ROM"
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2007, 09:06:43 AM »
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What are your suggestions for working it out?

Five minutes of booting and running on the logic analyser here at work.

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If you do a google search, there was a discussion somewhere of theoretically what the GAL is doing, but I don't think anyone has ever attacked one with a logic analyzer.

I contributed to that discussion. We need one to try. I have a GVP HD8+ all I need is the adapter and I'll open source the results.

If Ralph doesnt mind.
 

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Re: Wanted: GVP A530 "GURU ROM"
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2007, 03:56:15 PM »
Ralph has intimated to me that he doesnt want people replicating his work. I can fully understand that.

If anyone knows where you can officially buy these chips + adapters that would be better than trying to "steal" other peoples hard earned work.
 

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Re: Wanted: GVP A530 "GURU ROM"
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2007, 05:15:35 PM »
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If anyone knows where you can officially buy these chips + adapters that would be better than trying to "steal" other peoples hard earned work.


The problem is, such a place do not exist.

I appreciate Ralph's hard work, but without anyone making use of it ... it doesn't have much meaning.
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Thank you for your order, sorry we can no longer get the Guru rom as they stopped making them.

If you need anything else please let us know.

Thank you
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Re: Wanted: GVP A530 "GURU ROM"
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2007, 12:23:53 AM »
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The problem is, such a place do not exist.


www.compuquick-amigadirect.com $60
www.eternity-computer.de €49
www.dbline.it/shtm/amspam.htm €25
www.mrhardwarecomputers.com $70

Confirm that non of these shops sell them and Ralph said that if there were no more shops selling them that he would consider a simple license to get some more made.
 

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Re: Wanted: GVP A530 "GURU ROM"
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2008, 12:39:30 AM »
Hi,

   Sorry to bump an old thread, but have you heard anything more on this subject?  I can call Compuquick/MrHardware  tomorrow, but Eternity's doesn't seem to want to go to English and I'm afraid I never learned more than pigeon German.  The Italian site only lists for the A2091 not for the GVP card.  I have only the GVP SCSI hardcards.


Thanks,
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