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Old 03-11-2007, 04:54 AM   #1
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Default Is a Mediator 4000Di worth it?

I've got a X-Surf, a CV64 and a KickFlash in my A4000D's Zorro slots. I'm thinking about upgrading to a Mediator 4000Di so I can use a Voodoo and a 100MB Ethernet card. I'm wondering if this is a worthwhile upgrade? Will the graphics performance be significantly better than the CV64? Can I still use the KickFlash on the Mediator? (having said that I'm not sure it's actually working but hey).

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Old 03-11-2007, 04:56 AM   #2
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Default Re: Is a Mediator 4000Di worth it?

I have no idea but I think you should sell me your 4000 when you to buy one
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Old 03-11-2007, 04:58 AM   #3
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Default Re: Is a Mediator 4000Di worth it?

No way :-) The Mediator is an upgrade for the A4000 anyway so I still need the 4000.

I'll never sell my A4000 so you might as well forget it now

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Old 03-11-2007, 05:01 AM   #4
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Default Re: Is a Mediator 4000Di worth it?

Di.... thought it was a revision of the D... oh well lol You can spot the amiga noob a mile off lol

You know, You could still sell me the 4000, or trade me for my 600 Even if you don't want to, I think you should
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:03 AM   #5
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Default Re: Is a Mediator 4000Di worth it?

The "Di" in "Mediator 4000Di" means it's a Mediator expansion which fits inside the A4000D case, unlike previous versions which required a towerised A4000. If you want an A4000 (you really really do) then why not place a wanted ad in the Marketplace forum?

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Old 03-11-2007, 05:20 AM   #6
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Default Re: Is a Mediator 4000Di worth it?

Good idea How much are they going for these days?
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:23 AM   #7
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Default Re: Is a Mediator 4000Di worth it?

IMHO it's worth getting a Mediator..only drawback is that you'll loose the videslot if you want to use a scandoubler in one
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:39 AM   #8
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Default Re: Is a Mediator 4000Di worth it?

@baz
I paid about £250 for mine, but prices vary greatly. Best to post a wanted ad and see what offers you get.

@amigaz
Thanks for the tip about losing the video slot. It's not a problem ATM as I'm not using a videoslot scandoubler, so I think I'll go for the Mediator at some point.

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Old 03-11-2007, 05:43 AM   #9
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Default Re: Is a Mediator 4000Di worth it?

Half a year ago; I would have said yes. Now I wouldn't be too sure.

There are upsides and downsides. Voodoo3 on Mediator is faster then even a Picasso IV. Cards are cheaper to buy.

But then again, you already have a NIC and a (decent!) GFX card. That means you invest a lot of money on "just" a cheap audio card if you want one. If the money needed justifies the speed increase; that's only for you to decide.

If you do go the Mediator route give me a buzz if you need a soundblaster card; I got a loaded box of new OEM SB128's from a local computer store

EDIT: And yes, you can still use your Kickflash. Even your CV64 and X-Surf if you want...
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:47 AM   #10
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Default Re: Is a Mediator 4000Di worth it?

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only drawback is that you'll loose the videslot if you want to use a scandoubler in one
Not all all. My A4000s SD/FF just clips over a chip on the motherboard :-)

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Default Re: Is a Mediator 4000Di worth it?

He said you'd loose the Videoslot. A Videoslot is a lot more then just a scandoubler connector.
Videoslots can also be used for Internal Genlocks; MPG Decoder cards; GFX Cards with integrated FF/SD (Picasso IV), Video Toaster and Keying devices.

An option would be a Mediator 4000D (not the I version) in some kind of tower case. This version does have a full Videoslot.
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Old 03-11-2007, 06:23 AM   #12
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Default Re: Is a Mediator 4000Di worth it?

All that would seem so interesting to have the desktop version and all. I know I'm at least going to put one of my remaining Amiga 4000's in a tower case (since I sold my project motherboard, and that crook !@#%#$% Boogiegail was the one that outbidded everyone)

I was thinking back to a thread I as in, and that gets me thinking more when I can actually have money to play with.
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Default Re: Is a Mediator 4000Di worth it?

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He said you'd loose the Videoslot. A Videoslot is a lot more then just a scandoubler connector.
Videoslots can also be used for Internal Genlocks; MPG Decoder cards; GFX Cards with integrated FF/SD (Picasso IV), Video Toaster and Keying devices.

An option would be a Mediator 4000D (not the I version) in some kind of tower case. This version does have a full Videoslot.
Yeah and they clip on scandoubler's aren't full 24bit
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Old 03-11-2007, 07:00 AM   #14
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Maybe this is of no use to you, but I found that my Voodoo 3 3000 (although on G-Rex and CGFX4) is significantly - noticabley - faster even at drawing 2D desktop items than my CyberVision PPC.

Things like tiling the backdrops of windows happens in a snap and I can't see them being "painted" any more. So far I am very pleased with my Voodoo system.

I'm not sure if a similar sort of performance is gained with a Mediator though, but PCI sure has been a great upgrade for me.

Amigaz sold me his Terratec 512i which is excellent under my G-Rex; MP3s, modules, and HivelyTracker sound fantastic on it. Thanks again, btw, Amigaz! :-D The digital out is useful too. I'm sure you can use this sound card under the Mediator aswell.

I am also using a PCI ethernet card which is noticably faster than my XSurf was. The only Zorro card I am using now is my Algor Pro.
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Maybe this is of no use to you, but I found that my Voodoo 3 3000 (although on G-Rex and CGFX4) is significantly - noticabley - faster even at drawing 2D desktop items than my CyberVision PPC.

Things like tiling the backdrops of windows happens in a snap and I can't see them being "painted" any more. So far I am very pleased with my Voodoo system.

I'm not sure if a similar sort of performance is gained with a Mediator though, but PCI sure has been a great upgrade for me.

Amigaz sold me his Terratec 512i which is excellent under my G-Rex; MP3s, modules, and HivelyTracker sound fantastic on it. Thanks again, btw, Amigaz! :-D The digital out is useful too. I'm sure you can use this sound card under the Mediator aswell.

I am also using a PCI ethernet card which is noticably faster than my XSurf was. The only Zorro card I am using now is my Algor Pro.
Glad the card worked great :-)
Using one in my Mediator 4000, the sound is much deeper and crisper than my old SB128
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