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AmigaOne Alive?
« on: March 13, 2006, 05:32:31 PM »
Is there any hope of ever obtaining a new AmigaOne?  What are the best prospects for a new mothetboard?  And how does one get OS4 if they did get a motherboard?
 

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2006, 05:50:58 PM »
answers to your questions, in order:

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not a lot at the mo.
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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2006, 07:00:01 PM »
There is a rumor of some new MicroA1-c going into production but I've had problems with mine.  I'm hoping things will go better with the PowerVixxen LT in my A1200 (if and when it ever comes out).  If that doesn't work out the Troika Amy '05 should be out soon also.
 

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2006, 07:06:03 PM »
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Is there any hope of ever obtaining a new AmigaOne?


Zero

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What are the best prospects for a new mothetboard?


I'd say Troika (100%) but it has been delayed.
PowerVixxen was supposed to be a 'cert' by now but seems to be 'vapourising'....


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And how does one get OS4 if they did get a motherboard?


Under the license Hyperion are supposed to operate by, AmigaOS4 is always bundled with the board unless it is the special PhaseV/DCE version.
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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2006, 05:08:59 AM »
I am currently negotiating with Hyperion to provide a new amiga motherboard or using an existing or brand new design.
I want Hyperion to eliminate the need for a ROM, or I'll have to add a new one to the board design. This will slow things down.  However, flash ROM won't be much of a problem.
I want to use a dual core set-up.

Hyperion was foolish to make it one board specific.
They now say on their website that they will work with you to port the OS to a new chip if necessary. I was thinking of AMD. The chips are well supported and have a future.

Kathy Elliott
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Former Amiga Developer and OS Tester
 

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2006, 08:04:08 AM »

This sounds interesting.

Timescale ?
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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2006, 08:12:56 AM »
kathyone: rofl , good try.

Whats up with all the hate!
 

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2006, 09:38:46 AM »
Ever feel like some people are waiting for the coming of the Messiah?  Maybe it has to do something about some peoples' professed faith in certain "religions" whatever they be. :-?
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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2006, 11:02:55 AM »
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They now say on their website that they will work with you to port the OS to a new chip if necessary. I was thinking of AMD. The chips are well supported and have a future.


Never mind OS4, AROS is already working on your first step (x86-64 native) and could do it far cheaper then Hyperion.  The x86-64 native port bounty sure could use some donations.  Michal is reworking the AROS kernel to be modular for a bunch of future improvements to bring AROS to modern OS capabilities.  :-)

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2006, 12:09:33 PM »
Amiga One is dead IMHO.
Better go for Pegasos.
 

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2006, 04:27:33 PM »
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Kathyone wrote:
I am currently negotiating with Hyperion to provide a new amiga motherboard or using an existing or brand new design.
I want Hyperion to eliminate the need for a ROM, or I'll have to add a new one to the board design. This will slow things down.  However, flash ROM won't be much of a problem.
I want to use a dual core set-up.

Hyperion was foolish to make it one board specific.
They now say on their website that they will work with you to port the OS to a new chip if necessary. I was thinking of AMD. The chips are well supported and have a future.

Kathy Elliott
Mystical Rose Technologies
Former Amiga Developer and OS Tester


If hardware vendors will still need to negotiate with the AmigaOS producers or owners, and AmigaOS will still only be allowed to be sold for "Amiga motherboards", then what's the difference?

AmigaOS would still be dead, only it would be dead on a better CPU this time. :P

Nevertheless, good luck!
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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2006, 08:43:25 PM »
On schedule, and suing
 

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2006, 09:08:36 PM »
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Seehund wrote:
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Kathyone wrote:
I am currently negotiating with Hyperion to provide a new amiga motherboard or using an existing or brand new design.
I want Hyperion to eliminate the need for a ROM, or I'll have to add a new one to the board design. This will slow things down.  However, flash ROM won't be much of a problem.
I want to use a dual core set-up.

Hyperion was foolish to make it one board specific.
They now say on their website that they will work with you to port the OS to a new chip if necessary. I was thinking of AMD. The chips are well supported and have a future.

Kathy Elliott
Mystical Rose Technologies
Former Amiga Developer and OS Tester


If hardware vendors will still need to negotiate with the AmigaOS producers or owners, and AmigaOS will still only be allowed to be sold for "Amiga motherboards", then what's the difference?

AmigaOS would still be dead, only it would be dead on a better CPU this time. :P

Nevertheless, good luck!


I don't understand what she's saying.  AmigaOS 4.x is PPC, that's the only CPU Hyperion have a contract for.  And if AmigaOS did get ported to x86-64 then I'd want to be able to go to Scan or Aria and choose my own motherboard, not have someone over at AmigaInc telling me what motherboard I can use and who I have to buy it from - that's just insane.

In other words, what is she going to be selling?  Sounds like she wants to design and manufacture her own x86 motherboard, which will only be produced in small quantities and no doubt be high priced / low specced because of it, plus the obligatory Amiga 'name tax'.

Meanwhile there are hundreds of off-the-shelf, tried and tested, high-performance, low-cost x86 motherboards already available for me to buy any time I like.

Why the heck would I want to buy hers?

I was against AmigaOS on x86 or for a long time.  But now, I think that if AmigaOS 4 had gone to x86 from day 1, instead of the AmigaOne debacle, there's be tens of thousands of OS4 users right now.  Still a drop in the ocean, but a vast improvement on the current situation.
 

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2006, 10:38:24 PM »
Oh come on, you're acting like they never sent out the T-Shirts...

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Re: AmigaOne Alive?
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2006, 11:32:28 PM »
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Kathyone wrote:
I am currently negotiating with Hyperion to provide a new amiga motherboard or using an existing or brand new design.
I want Hyperion to eliminate the need for a ROM, or I'll have to add a new one to the board design. This will slow things down.  However, flash ROM won't be much of a problem.
I want to use a dual core set-up.

Hyperion was foolish to make it one board specific.
They now say on their website that they will work with you to port the OS to a new chip if necessary. I was thinking of AMD. The chips are well supported and have a future.

Kathy Elliott
Mystical Rose Technologies
Former Amiga Developer and OS Tester


Why waste your time and resources? You may as well throw your money into the fireplace, the Amiga is dead, end of story.