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Old 03-04-2006, 10:31 AM   #1
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ok ive been trying to get my amiga linked to my pc through a parrell cable using pc2amiga

ive got win xp and i know it has problem opening the ports

so after 3 days solid of trying , i created a boot disk , slapped an old fat32 hd in my pc , an to my amazemet they talk great , i can view everything on the hard drive , but as soon as i go to copy i get the dreaded


packet loss , check pc or cables


please someone help me out, or in a fit of rage this amiga is gonna be the first one to fly

begging for help or someone to come and do it for me

i cant take it anymore

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Old 03-04-2006, 10:34 AM   #2
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If you pay for the airfare, sure .
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Old 03-04-2006, 10:36 AM   #3
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way im feeling now your on :-P
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Old 03-04-2006, 11:32 AM   #4
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Though they may not be related at all, here are two MS articles that have helped me with parallel/XP issues in the past. Maybe they can explain why XP won't talk to the Amiga. Where did you get your cable? Buy it, built it? I've seen many a serial and parallel cable in the past with one bad pin that would allow some flaky functionality. Is there any unusual settings for the parallel in your bios? You may be having a IRQ conflict. Try disabling hardware in bios that you don't use. Serial port, extra Nic card, extra USB port (some systems have multiple USBs that never get used).
Careful in the bios though, you can wig-out the system if you make chages in the wrong place. Then it will be time to look in your manual for bios resetting instructions.

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Old 03-04-2006, 12:14 PM   #5
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It's not the Amiga causing you pain, it's Windows. If you have a fit of rage, I suggest you smash the Windows computer. ;-)

Why use parallel? For speed? I used Amiga Explorer through serial and copied at 115200. I copied over 3Gb from Amiga to XP and back to Amiga (to backup harddrive, using XP computer from work).

Windows SP2 screws it up and causes data transfer errors and you can only copy at half that speed. When my work installed SP2, I still had about 500Mb to copy. The data transfer errors "caused me pain", but I kept trying and eventually everything copied.

Maybe SP2 is what is "causing you pain".
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Old 03-04-2006, 05:46 PM   #6
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pc2amiga works only on windows95/98
it does NOT work with win2000/xp
live with it and learn to use google, its 'your friend'
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Old 03-04-2006, 06:11 PM   #7
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Grrr!

I hate it when people say "Read the manual" or "Check Google"... if someone asked you the time or what the weather was going to be like would you say "Look at your watch!" or "See the weather forecast!"...

Google is full of rubbish, dead links, bloated advert-laden pages and out of date text files.

Amiga.org is the place for one-to-one affection, like chimps picking fleas from eachother.

:-D

Maybe ethernet would be better. Or Samba? Remember that PC parallel ports are bidirectional and Amiga parallel ports aren't. This is why you can only view ink-levels on your printer if you have a Hypercom card. Also, cables will make a difference, pinouts and length too.

For serial a buffered interface like the Twister MK2 can aide a smoothe and reliable data transfer.
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Old 03-04-2006, 09:49 PM   #8
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Ethernet is a lot faster and the obvious way to go if your Amiga has an ethernet card.

The Amiga parallel port is bidirectional, else you would only be able to send data and never receive it, your sound sampler would never work, etc.
It's designed to the Centronics standard.

Newer parallel ports are designed to the EPP (enhanced parallel port) standard, which is designed to be backward compatible with Centronics devices, though some newer printers and parallel scanners require an EPP/ECP port as opposed to the original Centronics compatible port.

More details here.


Another thing to try with the parallel network cable, is don't have it too long, and use decent shielded data cable.
I've found with ParNet that the longest you can get away with is around 4 to 5 metres, but even that could be dodgy in some situations.

The shorter, the better. Under 1m would be ideal.


P.S. I agree about Google :-) Though it's infailable if you want to buy Viagra or look for p0rn :-P
There is the odd occasion when you can find something useful though...
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Old 03-05-2006, 03:09 AM   #9
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cheers for the sarcastic "google is your friend line" but maybe if ya read my post you'd see im using a boot disk i am not using win xp


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Old 03-05-2006, 05:12 PM   #10
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Typical, we didn't get EPP, PCMCIA 3...

We got slow serial, PIO Mode-1, 880KB floppy and only the A3000 had the flicker fixer!

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