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[blobrana]

Hum,
i just installed the beta Internet.Explorer.7.Build.5299 (11Mb)

Download: link Removed (PM Me)
Note you need a Genuine Copy of Windows XP


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Quite a few intresting features and omissions from the browser.
And reasonably stable, it only crashed after 15 minutes when it tried a shockwave file...not that would i surf with it anyway...

[koaftder]

You would have to be crazy to install that binary. I'm not saying that blobrana has evil intentions, but who knows what the intentions are of the guy who put up that file. Every site on the planet works with the current up to date released version of IE from MS. If you like, ive got a binary right here, just for you, cmon, run it.

[Trev]

Ummm, yeah. It's fairly easy to get IE7 through legitimate channels. In any case, this thread should be deleted. . . .

Trev

[Vincent]

Maybe not the thread, just the link if it's dodgy.

I'm actually quite interested in how MS has improved the whole browser. Let's face it, it couldn't really be worse! :-D

[blobrana]

Hum,
yeah i am wary of any binary,
But this one was virus scanned and internet traffic watched.

So it seems cool to test...

Just download if you use firefox or opera to do the real surfing.

[koaftder]

blobrana wrote:
Hum,
yeah i am wary of any binary,
But this one was virus scanned and internet traffic watched.

Virus scanners mean nothing, as they usually only flag things on definition. Change around the code on a trojan a little, and they miss it. Most checks are based on checksums or md5.

If one wanted to transmit some data to another host on the net, you would think the virus suite you are running would check this? Sure, if it opens it own socket for the io. But what if it used the html rendering library via com to send the data? Trick a trusted process to send your data, and you slip by the av software.

So you are watching the traffic, and with what? Ethereal, tcpdump? So what, if i were to write something malicious, i would make it communicate very rarely, maybe only onece a week, maybe more, maybe less. Did you check to see which registry keys it was accessing? Did you check to see what files it was playing with? Are you anal enough about what processes are running to notice? Do you know what all of the running processes you have are?

You cant watch your system 100% of the time with 100% detial. 80% of security problems could be solved with just an ounce of education.

[Vincent]

@koaftder

I don't think you realise who you are talking to here ;-)

[koaftder]

Vincent wrote:
@koaftder

I don't think you realise who you are talking to here ;-)

All i know is it's somebody with 4000 posts and they run windows. That and he's trying to convince people to run an unknown binary from a questionable source.

[blobrana]

@koaftder
Hum,
Well it`s not a 100%

But i guess that is the risk with anything you install, even from MS.

you could always block it totally with a firewall just to test - afterall it is a beta anyway.
(noone should be using IE to surf anyway....)

The real thing is just a few months away.

[Piru]

@Vincent

koaftder is 100% right here. It'd be trivial to modify even known virus/trojan in a way it will get past current virus checkers and scanners.

It's beta sw, if you value stable system, don't install it.

The link should be removed IMO.

@blobrana

you could always block it totally with a firewall just to test

It could still install totally undetectable new virus/trojan to your system.

[Vincent]

@Piru

I'm not saying he's wrong.

I'm suspicious of beta stuff myself, especially if it comes from a dubious source. I just think the way koaftder was speaking was a bit off, but seeing his answer to my last post, I can see why he made it :-)

[koaftder]

blobrana wrote:
@koaftder
Hum,
Well it`s not a 100%

But i guess that is the risk with anything you install, even from MS.

you could always block it totally with a firewall just to test - afterall it is a beta anyway.

The real thing is just a few months away.

A firewall is just another thin layer of security. A firewall knows nothing about the state of things on your machine. All it knows is blah packet is coming from blah address and wants to goto blah machine at blah address at blah port. It then looks at it's rule set and either drops the packet on the floor or sends it on its merry way.

Any trojan worth anything sends it's data out to where ever over 80 looking like ie. How are you supposed to filter that on your network hardware?

[whabang]

he's trying

He?!?! :-)

[blobrana]

Hum,
well after a bit more testing i discovered that it isn't as memory intensive, and faster than the old ie6.

The stability issues i experience at the beginning have gone , though that may just be because of luck.

I've had to do a bit of hacking to get it to work as i want; such as i installed a google search option , and remove some `this is a beta` text.

For example, on `certain` machines, to remove the text that has appeared at the bottom of your desktop after you installed IE7:

Delete these entries (regedit):
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\SystemCertif icates\CA\Certificates\FEE449EE0E3965A5246F000E87F DE2A065FD89D4
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\SystemCertif icates\ROOT\Certificates\2BD63D28D7BCD0E251195AEB5 19243C13142EBC3

This will remove the root certificate, and stop the text from appearing.


Overall i would say that the finished job with RSS, Tabs, search tool, anti phishing, will be just the same as Firefox.

[InTheSand]

blobrana wrote:
(noone should be using IE to surf anyway....)

Exactly! Why would anyone want to use the bug-infested security hazard known as IE when Firefox works so well?!

- Ali