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[sumner7]

...of Churches???

Why would someone want to waste their sunday morning in a building listening to some crap???

There's lots of other ways to praise God but it seems that church is compulsory.

I think it's a load of sh*t to be honest. Why can't people just praise God at home???

[bloodline]

sumner7 wrote:
...of Churches???

Why would someone want to waste their sunday morning in a building listening to some crap???

There's lots of other ways to praise God but it seems that church is compulsory.

I think it's a load of sh*t to be honest. Why can't people just praise God at home???

I agree!

[Speelgoedmannetje]

What I never have understood is that why want ppl to praise god between four self-built walls, completely seperated from god's creation.

[zudobug]

sumner7,

This is highly offensive. It might even be considered trolling.

Churches are generally built on what is regarded to be sacred land. They have a special atmosphere. Many Christians enjoy going to church and praying, worshipping, etc.

It's not for you or me but that doesn't mean we should attack it. Are you gonna have a go at mosques next? Would you dare?

I'd like to see an end to this sort of thing on amiga.org.

-zudo

[bloodline]

zudobug wrote:
sumner7,

This is highly offensive. It might even be considered trolling.

Churches are generally built on what is regarded to be sacred land. They have a special atmosphere. Many Christians enjoy going to church and praying, worshipping, etc.

It's not for you or me but that doesn't mean we should attack it. Are you gonna have a go at mosques next? Would you dare?

I'd like to see an end to this sort of thing on amiga.org.

-zudo

Nothing against worship here... the question Sumner raises is against organised religion.

[zudobug]

bloodline wrote:

Nothing against worship here... the question Sumner raises is against organised religion.

The questions seemed to me to be rhetorical. He describes sermons as being "a load of crap" and going to church to be "a load of sh*t". I don't have a problem with asking christians to explain why they go to church, but the language of the post and the accusations are offensive. It seems to me this sumner wants an argument rather than a debate and is trying his best to get people rattled enough to give him what he wants. I've observed similar behaviour before but this is the first time it's upset me enough to comment.

This is all my opinion by the way. I could be wrong.

-zudo

[bloodline]

zudobug wrote:

The questions seemed to me to be rhetorical. He describes sermons as being "a load of crap" and going to church to be "a load of sh*t". I don't have a problem with asking christians to explain why they go to church, but the language of the post and the accusations are offensive. It seems to me this sumner wants an argument rather than a debate and is trying his best to get people rattled enough to give him what he wants. I've observed similar behaviour before but this is the first time it's upset me enough to comment.

This is all my opinion by the way. I could be wrong.

-zudo

what sumner lacks in eloquance he makes up for in Jonopike's hair...

[CU_AMiGA]

Sumner does have a point though... In my opinion, of course, i think that the modern era will have no time for this religion crap. I would like to see a petition to ban "Songs Of Praise" - every bloody Sunday.

[KennyR]

sumner7 wrote:
I think it's a load of sh*t to be honest. Why can't people just praise God at home???

Because when people worship at home they can't be indocrinated, fleeced for money, or work out the logic holes in religious doctrines. Or worse, they might think for themselves and form their own religion, threatening the power of the established order.

[Cyberus]

zudobug wrote:
sumner7,

This is highly offensive. It might even be considered trolling.

Churches are generally built on what is regarded to be sacred land. They have a special atmosphere. Many Christians enjoy going to church and praying, worshipping, etc.

It's not for you or me but that doesn't mean we should attack it. Are you gonna have a go at mosques next? Would you dare?

I'd like to see an end to this sort of thing on amiga.org.

-zudo

I am totally with you on this. I have utmost respect for other people's beliefs, REGARDLESS of whether I agree with them; I say this as a non-believer (in organised religion) who has studied world religions (focussing on Christianity) in some depth. By all means discuss religion with others, but this intolerance is starting to get to me.

Will somebody pleas ban this troll?

And yes Kenny, I think we all know by now what you don't like about Christianity or religion in general. It's starting to get like a stuck record....

[KennyR]

http://www.googlism.com/index.htm?ism=kennyr&type=1

[bjjones37]

by KennyR on 2004/11/10 9:07:20

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Because when people worship at home they can't be indocrinated, fleeced for money, or work out the logic holes in religious doctrines. Or worse, they might think for themselves and form their own religion, threatening the power of the established order.
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Church buildings allow for social gatherings for people with common values. Are you opposed to people's right to assemble for social reasons? The law does not require anybody to go to church, at least not in my country. It is a free expression of personal beliefs. Indoctrination is something that is inevitable, like breathing. We are indoctrinated by parents, teachers, friends, the media, literature, and here. Some may not like this, but not believing in God is every bit as much a result of indoctrination as believing in a religion. The only way to avoid indoctrination is total isolation. Personally I like to have a place I can go to give to what I consider to be a worthy cause. I like associating with people who live and believe in the same things I do. Donations are voluntary. Do you criticize people for giving to Amiga.org? This is something important enough to them that they wish to support it. If anyone wishes to start their own religion, they are free to do so. Look at all the various religions and denominations and sects that already exist. Nobody prevented them. I am no major proponent of religious organizations but I do advocate personal liberty and that includes the right to attend a church if I choose and support it financially if I value its causes.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

FINALLY someone with a very well thought and well expressed opinion considering this and NO, I'm not sarcastic :-)

[Bezzen]

Perhaps it's just that some people like to join up with likeminded once a week?

In the old days when we Swedes used to go to church every Sunday it was very much a social event where people from all around met up. In the days before cars and telephones and such stuff. When we got the cars and telephones we off course stopped going to church, like all sane people would. ;-)

Churches, or any religious building for that matter, are proof of how much religion wishes to separate itself from reality in its attempt at exclusivity.

How many trees were cut down to make the Pews? All the rock ripped out of the fair Earth? Religious buldings are an abomination. a scar I say, upon the face of Earth.