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[redrumloa]

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What's sad is Argentina schools are showing it as a factual documentary. :-x

[whabang]

Haven't seen the film, but isn't it a satire and not a documentary? :-?

Regardless, children killing each other is wierd.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

Aw c'mon this is such incredible bollocks! This movie has not influenced this kid in any way.

See the movie BEFORE you're sputtering such kwatsch, Red.

[ltstanfo]

whabang wrote:
Haven't seen the film, but isn't it a satire and not a documentary? :-?

Regardless, children killing each other is wierd.

The "movie" is being described by the press here in the US as a documentary. If you see the film however it is clear that it is an "op-ed" (opinion of the editor, as in newspapers) piece designed by Moore to be as negative (with respect to President Bush) as possible. The movie shows real events but the "slant" is pure Michael Moore.

By the way, there is a counter to the Moore film, called Farenhype 911. A link to it and a refuting of the Moore film can be found at:

http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm

There are links on the site listed above for several other languages.

Regards,
ltstanfo

[Speelgoedmannetje]

ltstanfo wrote:
The "movie" is being described by the press here in the US as a documentary. If you see the film however it is clear that it is an "op-ed" (opinion of the editor, as in newspapers) piece designed by Moore to be as negative (with respect to President Bush) as possible.

Correct, but it can no way have had such an influence on the kid because the movie condemns violence fiercely.

[ltstanfo]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

Correct, but it can no way have had such an influence on the kid because the movie condemns violence fiercely.

Speel,

I was not trying to imply that the film had any relation to the shootings in Argentina. I was replying to Whabang's question about what Moore's "film" is...a documentary or satire.

Regards,
ltstanfo

[redrumloa]

[/quote]Correct, but it can no way have had such an influence on the kid because the movie condemns violence fiercely.[/quote]

Did you read the article? This kid indeed did copy the actions of the columbine kids only days after watching Bowling.

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@ Speelgoedmannetje
"Aw c'mon this is such incredible bollocks! This movie has not influenced this kid in any way."
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Don't think a movie or TV can influence a kid?

January 20, 2004

"Jackass" Death Toll Ticks Up

REPORT:
Jackass and teenagers have again made a deadly combination, this time in southern California.

A stunt seen on a popular television show is being blamed for the death of a Marysville teen.

Police said a group of teens gathered at a park at Greeley Street and Rideout Way over the weekend to re-enact a stunt they had seen on the MTV program "Jackass."

The teens attached a rope to a merry-go-round and tied the other end to a pickup truck. When the truck went forward, the ride would spin.

Bobbi MacKinnon, 16, was killed when she was thrown 75 feet from the ride and landed in the street.
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ST. PAUL - A Hastings boy is recovering from third-degree burns on 65 percent of his body after setting himself on fire to imitate stunts from "Jackass: The Movie."

"He is going to live," his mother told the St. Paul Pioneer Press. "He was on life support for about six days. He will be in the hospital a minimum of two months. He has already had three major surgeries, and I don't know how many more he'll have."

Anyone that believes a movie or TV can't influence a kid, might be a Jackass himself.

[Wilse]

Guns don't kill people, it's documentaries that kill people....... ;-)

[Wilse]

redrumloa wrote:

Correct, but it can no way have had such an influence on the kid because the movie condemns violence fiercely.[/quote]

Did you read the article? This kid indeed did copy the actions of the columbine kids only days after watching Bowling.[/quote]

And how would you address this?
Maybe we should ban all films that contain any violence, lest some nutty kid copies it?

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@ Wilse
"And how would you address this?
Maybe we should ban all films that contain any violence, lest some nutty kid copies it?"
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Maybe we should all sit around and quote casualty figures at them until they stop.
Yeah, that will work. ;-)

[Wilse]

To paraphrase the legendery Mr. Waters:
"..Fade, you're nearly a laugh but you're really a cry.."

Keep on voting for what you know to be lying murderers because "now we're big and tough" - yeah, that'll work too. ;-)

[zudobug]

If you believe this you'll believe anything. The perfect Republican.

-zudo

[KennyR]

The Republican guide to gun violence

The following DO NOT cause gun violence:


- Owning guns.
- Having a large, powerful organisation with financial and political powers advocating gun rights.
- Poverty.
- Cheap guns.
- Lack of fancy trigger locks.
- Guns with fully automatic capability.
- Slack registration.


The following DO cause gun violence:

- Marilyn Manson.
- Eminem, and hiphop in general.
- Violent computer games, including DOOM.
- Not being polite.
- Satan.
- Pornography and sin.
- Loss of family values.
- Michael Moore documentaries.

(And basically everything else Republicans don't like.)

Are we seeing how ludicrous this is yet? And believe it or not, that list of DO does indeed come from factual stories have heard for years. Go look for youselves!

[redrumloa]

Correct, but it can no way have had such an influence on the kid because the movie condemns violence fiercely.

I didn't say the movie glorified violence. This kid was obviously mentally disturded, he simply got his ideas from this movie Argentina schools is showing as a documentary.

And how would you address this?

Michael Moore or Argentina?

Maybe we should ban all films that contain any violence,

No way man, I need my horror flicks :-D