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Old 07-30-2004, 05:31 PM   #1
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Wow, some people seem to have got worked up because you've lost your God-given right to have a girl's bum in your avatar.

(actually, we've taken action on peoples' avatars before recently, just that some immature people like to keep "pushing the boundaries", so we have to set some)

Is the avatar system really that insightful or interesting a way of spreading a message? Does AO's new addition to posting guidelines show how the world is going to pot?
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:45 PM   #2
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Can I have a "Bob Marley smokin' a joint" avatar? :-)
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:50 PM   #3
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Can I have a "Bob Marley smokin' a joint" avatar?
The posting guidelines contain this other semi-relevant point, once again caused by some idiot on AO whose contributions were very similar to Towelie out of South Park:
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No posting about illegal activities
If you get drunk, that's fine. If you use drugs, that's fine. The moderators of this site aren't here to be your mother. We will not however tolerate excessive posting promoting drug use or other illegal activities. It's not funny, it's annoying, and it's unacceptable. Moderators are free to use their discretion up to and including banning the account of the person responsible.
Make your own mind up.
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:50 PM   #4
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some people seem to have got worked up because you've lost your God-given right to have a girl's bum in your avatar.
i'm not sure that's completely true - certainly speel just likes to talk about things for the fun of it!
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Is the avatar system really that insightful or interesting a way of spreading a message?
actually, yes, it's a great way to communicate - and a creative way! i love it, i love that you can change depending on your mood or the topic of the moment or your feelings, etc.
that said, there's no point in making people who happen to be at work uncomfortable. I hope my Dalek AV is still ok (it's got that THING sticking out of it)


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Does anyone find a scuplure by Michelangelo offensive?
yes, A$$croft.
he spent $8000 tax payer dollars proving it.


fortunately for us, he does NOT have an Amiga and isn't here to annoy us. so we can have all the ART we want!
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:55 PM   #5
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I think avatars can be cool, it adds to the forum atmostphere, IMO. However, they're not for confirming whether our more immature users' sex drives are functioning normally, or for intentionally annoying other people.
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:55 PM   #6
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Does anyone find a scuplure by Michelangelo offensive?
yes, A$$croft.
he spent $8000 tax payer dollars proving it.

I just had to think about the fate of those Buddha statues in Afghanistan
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Old 07-30-2004, 06:01 PM   #7
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Hum,
Yes indeed!
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Old 07-30-2004, 06:03 PM   #8
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Old 07-30-2004, 06:04 PM   #9
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<looks at blobrana's avatar>

Whatever.

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Doesn't the term "illegal activity" cover guns? I mean, gun posession (and especially usage) is forbidden here..
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I just had to think about the fate of those Buddha statues in Afghanistan
exactly! there are anti-art/religious nuts all over the world!
they disgust me!

and the piliging that still going on in Iraq with the artifacts in the desert!
sheesh!
priceless stuff being stolen and lost!
really makes me sick!
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Old 07-30-2004, 06:34 PM   #12
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@Speelgoedmannetje

Hum,
Lara Croft
wouldn`t be the same...

@Cecilia
Also the looting in Baghdad and other Iraqi cities destroyed Babylonian, Sumerian and Assyrian collections that chronicled some 7,000 years of civilization in ancient Mesopotamia.
I remember seeing the Baghdad Museum of Antiquities trashed right under the noses of American Marines, who had been given no instructions to protect it...

but it`s everywhere...fossil hunters in china - tropical fishermen - tomb-hunters in the americas...

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Old 07-30-2004, 08:05 PM   #13
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I demand that Johnny Depp also be removed as an avatar. Having once appeared in a movie with scissors for hands, I think he is a bad example to children who might be surfing the site.
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Old 07-31-2004, 02:33 AM   #14
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Doesn't the term "illegal activity" cover guns? I mean, gun posession (and especially usage) is forbidden here..
A gun is an inanimate object that doesn't signify or advocate illegal activity. I hoped my 'cross' example would get that across.
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A gun is an inanimate object that doesn't signify or advocate illegal activity. I hoped my 'cross' example would get that across.
That cross example would have made sense if you compared it with the swastika. In that sense, you should be tolerant towards swastika's either.
But why do you think is the purpose (and the statement of the person who use it as his/her avatar) of a (hand)gun? Target practices? :roll:
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I just had to think about the fate of those Buddha statues in Afghanistan
exactly! there are anti-art/religious nuts all over the world!
they disgust me!

and the piliging that still going on in Iraq with the artifacts in the desert!
sheesh!
priceless stuff being stolen and lost!
really makes me sick!
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Well, without religious nuts (of differing persuasions), half these artifacts, Buddha statues included wouldn't exist in the first place.

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Can I have a "Bob Marley smokin' a joint" avatar?
The posting guidelines contain this other semi-relevant point, once again caused by some idiot on AO whose contributions were very similar to Towelie out of South Park


Now THAT would make a unique avatar!!
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Old 07-31-2004, 05:53 AM   #18
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A gun is an inanimate object that doesn't signify or advocate illegal activity. I hoped my 'cross' example would get that across.
That cross example would have made sense if you compared it with the swastika. In that sense, you should be tolerant towards swastika's either.
I'd like to know how that makes any sense to you.

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But why do you think is the purpose (and the statement of the person who use it as his/her avatar) of a (hand)gun? Target practices? :roll:
By the same rationale, someone could have a picture of a dog as their avatar, and someone else could be offended because they once got bit by a dog.

Speel, if this is just a windup, or you're suffering from the worst case of boredom ever, please find something better to do. AO staff have to draw certain lines because this website's audience happens to include younger people. It would be nice if certain AO users didn't just try to "push the boundaries" for the sake of it then cry censorship, but sadly we have people here that like to do that sort of thing. We try to make sure our actions to counter the problem restrict as little as possible.

Is anything important or interesting lost as a result of the new addition to the posting guidelines? I don't think so.
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Guys?

I'm going to make this very, very simple for you. Over the last several months, we've received several complaints regarding the use of sexually explicit avatars. Then, over the last week, I've had one close friend tell me that Amiga.org was banned at his work specifically because of the avatars, and another who got in "serious trouble" because his boss walked in and saw the inappropriate avatars on the screen.

E-mail/PMail complaints aside, that's only two issues that we know of and I'm sure there are several dozen that we aren't aware of. That ain't cool, it ain't funny, and it ain't about "censorship".

Most people I know use this site at work, and if certain kids want to express the fact that they're sexually immature, that affects lots of people who haven't done anything wrong, but suddenly can't reach the site from their office. The innocent users suffer, Amiga.org suffers.

It's situations like this and the reaction of certain users (blobrana for example with his new "censored" avatar) that make me seriously question the reasons for providing this site.
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Then, over the last week, I've had one close friend tell me that Amiga.org was banned at his work specifically because of the avatars, and another who got in "serious trouble" because his boss walked in and saw the inappropriate avatars on the screen..
Look, THAT is a valid argument to me. (and what would your boss think of a site wich displays guns?)
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