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[dammy]

Originally Posted by haywirepc

What does that have to do with insulting AROS over and over and then using parts of it in your product without even an apology for your stupid ass remarks and insults of the project previously?

If they are going to use parts of AROS, the least they could do is apologize for their now proven retarded remarks.

And Dammy, your such a cool aid drinking cult member you don't even realize why people would think this is funny, rude and selfish of CUSA?

No, I do find it damn funny that people like you, who have talked directly with Barry on the phone in the past so it's quiet easy for you to pick up the phone and call Barry, are here, belly aching about it when I sure as hell don't remember you doing jack to help AROS back when AROS needed supporters and coders. Why is that? Because you are a troll, just like the others in this thread looking to bash C=USA at any chance you get.

So who the hell are you to champion a cause for AROS?

[cgutjahr]

This thread needs to be moved into the CUSA sub forum.

And Vox, you need to see a shrink. No, I'm not joking.

[bloodline]

I for one am just happy to see AROS taken seriously. While I feel the actions of of CUSA may well be questionable with respect to AROS, I would rather see AROS used than just sitting on the shelf as an interesting museum exhibit.

The simple fact is that right now, with such a low user base AROS can only benefit from exposure and usage.

The only problem I see is if CUSA take the source code, improve it and don't release their improvements back to the community. And let's be honest, they aren't going to do that, CUSA will simply use the standard AROS build

[OlafS3]

They will not hold sources back because they will not do any changes. They will simply use the standard (my guess)

[jorkany]

Originally Posted by vox

Would donate to such bounty, but more important to Dopus Magellan II.
I bet one day when Magellan will be ported to Linux or AROS, they will put it in and claim "genuine Amiga feelin" ... without paying 1$

The Magellan license holder paid for it already. If they choose to port to Linux or AROS that is their choice and fully within their rights - who would they pay? FYI, the effort by Guru Meditation to port Magellan (under a limited license) to OS4 was a failure.

Originally Posted by cgutjahr

This thread needs to be moved into the CUSA sub forum.

And Vox, you need to see a shrink. No, I'm not joking.

I don't usually agree with cgutjahr but this is an exception.

[takemehomegrandma]

Originally Posted by jorkany

I don't usually agree with cgutjahr but this is an exception.

[haywirepc]

First, I've never spoken to Barry on the phone or otherwise, so I don't know where you got that.

second, I've been using aros for years. I have followed AROS since it began. I'm allowed to have an opinion, which is all it is. I'm allowed to think its funny that CUSA has insulted and made rude remarks publicly about the aros project and then decide to use parts of it for their own benefit.

If they apologized publicly for their past comments at least, I'd have no problems with them using those parts if the devs are not against it. If they are just going to selfishly take from a project they insulted publicly without even an apology, myself and others are allowed to think thats funny.

I suppose no one should expect them to do the right thing, they have a proven track record of horrible ethics already established by stealing apple website text, faking photos of their "factory" threatening to sue osnews reporter for telling the truth about their products,slapping stickers on existing computers, and pretending they are their own, lying about technical mistakes in their products a 12 year old would not make, lying about having a 30 million dollar advertising budget and not one ad made it to tv EVER,and on and on.

So I suppose this kind of selfishness and stupidity should be expected from them by now.

[takemehomegrandma]

[Optimus]

So, really it's two issues. I don't really care that CUSA is using the AROS Kickstart ROMs, if they want to make a freely available to everyone as a free Linux distro they need to do so. However:

1. They promised thier customers since the initial C64x that "someday" when COS was released they would get disks in the mail with a premium version of COS that included the real licensed ROMs from Amiga Forever. This is what, now a year after the C64x shipped and it's in perpetual "beta" with no release timeframe. Even if they gave one, I can't think of a date CUSA has ever made - the old "in about week" dance they do every time they miss a date is laughable. If it is ever released, I won't be shocked to see Barry say that they have sold Millions of CUSA computers and can't possibly afford to mail the disks to their customers, they can just go download it off of a bit torrent like everyone else.

2. After publically bashing AROS, they are now going to use it, or at least the Kickstart. If you follow CUSA, the policy reversals and changing views happen often - it's free, it works OK, they are going to use it. Not surprising in the least.

If the AROS devs want to get their work into the hands of more people, this is a way. Irony with CUSA noted, it just another item that speaks to the character of the company.

[Karlos]

Guys, some of this nonsense is getting too personal. If you'd be so kind as to wind your necks in a bit...

It's not just CUSA bashing. People are starting to treat the place as a free for all where they slate who or whatever they feel like or just throw in the odd troll post to derail otherwise sensible topics.

This is an all formats Amiga forum for users from all backgrounds and affiliations. Most of us are fully grown adults, so let's act our age a bit and not our shoe size.

[Terminills]

Originally Posted by Karlos

. Most of us are fully grown adults

I resent that remark. :P

[takemehomegrandma]

@Karlos

What is the purpose with this forum: http://www.amiga.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=69



All posts about Commodore USA products, etc, seems to be moved down there, but hate-threads about them from some blind trademark follower that has mentally snapped is to be allowed on the front page? Discussions about CUSA progress, products, etc = bad, hate threads about CUSA = good?

I am not very interested in CUSA (or posts about them) personally, but I can't say I am particularly bothered by them either. But IMHO you should either allow all CUSA threads on the front page, or none of them. Not this subjective selection, and particularly not like this, i.e. allow hate (and then wine as a moderator about peoples behavior) but disallow discussions of progress and products.

Come on...

[Karlos]

Originally Posted by takemehomegrandma

@Karlos

What is the purpose with this forum: http://www.amiga.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=69

Ask whomever created it. It wasn't me.

All posts about Commodore USA products, etc, seems to be moved down there, but hate-threads about them from some blind trademark follower that has mentally snapped is to be allowed on the front page? Discussions about CUSA progress, products, etc = bad, hate threads about CUSA = good?

They only become hate threads because of what you (collectively) post.

I am not very interested in CUSA (or posts about them) personally, but I can't say I am particularly bothered by them either. But IMHO you should either allow all CUSA threads on the front page, or none of them. Not this subjective selection, and particularly not like this, i.e. allow hate (and then wine as a moderator about peoples behavior) but disallow discussions of progress and products.

Come on...

Why is it that every time I make a moderation request, you seem to pipe up with this whole argument as to my lack of even handedness? Are you trying to be annoying, or does it come naturally?

If you have a problem with my moderation or lack thereof, take it up with the site administrator.

Seriously I am in no mood for your sly digs. I have a post biopsy 1cm bore hole in the middle of my back right now and the last thing I need is you trying to crawl into it.

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