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[freqmax]

Originally Posted by orange

iirc, the HDMI thing wouldn't work because Amiga does D/A conversion inside a chip. so you'd need to do a A/D conversion for HDMI, and that sux,

And if you had actually read the thread it would been obvious that the idea is to piggyback the D/A chip ADV101KP30.

[orange]

@kvasir
better look for RGB->HDMI

@frekmax
right, and if you had thoroughly read the thread, you'd know how to build one yourself (by now) :P

[bbond007]

Originally Posted by kvasir

Been thinking of trying one of these
http://www.amazon.com/Expedited-Link...I1DZCDHZK5LNYV

you would probably be better off with a SCART->HDMI for better quality. Also SVIDO requires yet another adapter, and all the SCART would need is a cable...

Indivision is really worth the money and WB really looks great in 1280x720@4bpp

Hopefully this HDMI project is a success... Indivisions will sell out for sure....

[lassie]

Originally Posted by leirbag28

@CarlK


I believe itis possible, but in a much easier way than you think.



@meega

You dont have to run Workbench in SuperHiRes Mode. You can just run it in Hires Interlaced and upscale it somewhat.

The easiest way Ive seen to get HDMI on Amiga is via and Upscale DVD player with S-Video inputs...........My DVD Player upscales my Amiga Output and outputs it to my FLickerFixing Projector via HDMI.........it looks the same as S-video but blurry somewhat because I guess the upscaler expects pixelization and overcompensates.

Therefore HDMI is possible on the Amiga via a simple scandoubler type looking device that attaches to the RGB port and does the Upscaling, yet supports SuperHires interlaced mode as well if someone chose to use that.

Personally I use SuperHiresMode for Text credits and scrolling credits on Video.........looks freakin awesome.


Sometimes getting too technical about things makes it seem impossible. but it is easily achievable (and by that I dont mean that it is easy creating the hardware) I just mean the concept is easy.

The Amiga itself doesnt have to have a native HDMI output, because then it would need modifications and slow down the system...........

Hi i also have one of those boxes that can be used with HDMI. but it gets very blurry as you said. it is a shame because it did cost a lot.

[Zac67]

[QUOTE]you would probably be better off with a SCART->HDMI for better quality./QUOTE]

... only if the adapter converts the RGB part. Composite will suck.

[lassie]

[QUOTE=Zac67;708629]

you would probably be better off with a SCART->HDMI for better quality./QUOTE]

... only if the adapter converts the RGB part. Composite will suck.

Yes that could be nice, but it only takes Composite the one i have now why is it SCART is better than Composite? is it something to do with the signal?

[freqmax]

It's to do with that seperate signals för Red-Green-Blue and sync is way better than just push it all into the same signal wire. But SCART provides both RGB, S-video, Composite and users don't really know which ones are used..

Oh, and a signal path of D/A -> A/D is not better than a fully digital path.

[lassie]

Originally Posted by freqmax

It's to do with that seperate signals för Red-Green-Blue and sync is way better than just push it all into the same signal wire. But SCART provides both RGB, S-video, Composite and users don't really know which ones are used..

Oh, and a signal path of D/A -> A/D is not better than a fully digital path.

I have a SCART Adaptor where i can put the Red-White-Yellow cable from the Amiga into, and then i can put it in the SCART on my TV. Will that give me better picture quality or is it still not real SCART?

[freqmax]

I assume it's Red-White-Yellow <=> Right-Left (sound) -Yellow (composite video) so it's kind of the worst signal quality used with SCART. But's it's still SCART. Because that standard is a collection of possible signal standards.

So yes, it is SCART. But not optimaly used.

[orange]

Originally Posted by lassie

I have a SCART Adaptor where i can put the Red-White-Yellow cable from the Amiga into, and then i can put it in the SCART on my TV. Will that give me better picture quality or is it still not real SCART?

you need to check if that SCART connector on TV can take RGB signal. some TVs have more than one SCART. look in the manual. there is pinout for making 'RGB cable' on EAB.

[lassie]

Originally Posted by freqmax

I assume it's Red-White-Yellow <=> Right-Left (sound) -Yellow (composite video) so it's kind of the worst signal quality used with SCART. But's it's still SCART. Because that standard is a collection of possible signal standards.

So yes, it is SCART. But not optimaly used.

I have 2 SCART to Amiga RGB Cables but when i use them on my 43 inch plasma screen, i get worse picture than when i use Composite cable. I find that very strange

[orange]

Originally Posted by lassie

I have 2 SCART to Amiga RGB Cables but when i use them on my 43 inch plasma screen, i get worse picture than when i use Composite cable. I find that very strange

are you sure TV is in 'RGB' mode? I suggest you build this one:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=47281

[lassie]

Originally Posted by orange

are you sure TV is in 'RGB' mode? I suggest you build this one:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=47281

Hi do you mean there are something i need to change in my TV settings?

[orange]

Originally Posted by lassie

Hi do you mean there are something i need to change in my TV settings?

well, it depends. some old TVs let you select RGB/S-Video/Composite on the remote with AV button. but nowadays, you probably need good cable that supplies enough voltage on (infamous) pin 16 of SCART connector ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scart ) so that TV automagically switches to RGB. other than that, you might need some resistors in signal lines. check out that thread.

[kvasir]

Originally Posted by bbond007

you would probably be better off with a SCART->HDMI for better quality. Also SVIDO requires yet another adapter, and all the SCART would need is a cable...

Indivision is really worth the money and WB really looks great in 1280x720@4bpp

Hopefully this HDMI project is a success... Indivisions will sell out for sure....

SCART would be nice, just a bit impractical for the side of the Atlantic I live on.. RGB->HDMI would be a better bet. Didn't think that would work, though, thought HDMI was digital? Also, not sure if the TV I have would sync HDMI down to the 50hz that most games I like insist upon.. Emerson's tech support line is usually somebody who doesn't know s**t saying the TV doesn't support Amiga's, or any computer without a VGA connector (even an amiga with rgb->vga connector running dbl-ntsc, which I know better...)