amiga.org
     
iconAll times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:43 AM. | Welcome to Forum, please register to access all of our features.

» Amiga.org » Amiga computer related discussion » Amiga Tutorials » Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.

Amiga Tutorials In this forum, you'll find tutorials for AmigaOS and other forward-looking products.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-07-2012, 10:56 AM   #16
som99
Lifetime Member
Points: 9,000, Level: 63 Points: 9,000, Level: 63 Points: 9,000, Level: 63
Activity: 36% Activity: 36% Activity: 36%
 
som99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Sweden, Fort Independence
Posts: 900
Send a message via MSN to som99
Default Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.

Quote:
Originally Posted by amiman99 View Post
If you want to use PSX joypad as a mouse just get the PSX-Amiga converter from kipper2k http://kipper2k.com/amigaforsale/
Works great, just press "Select", mouse mode, press "Select" again, Joystick mode.
Oh thank you, I would love to have one, ill contact him when I have time, would be nice to disect one and see if I could make one for the Dreamcast controller

Only three hours of work left so soon home to play again with my hot iron, gotta order more 9-pin connectors from ELFA
__________________
I feel like a big can of unluck that's just about to open up on someone.
som99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 11:24 AM   #17
Mrs Beanbag
Technoid
Points: 2,674, Level: 31 Points: 2,674, Level: 31 Points: 2,674, Level: 31
Activity: 34% Activity: 34% Activity: 34%
 
Mrs Beanbag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
Posts: 366
Default Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.

Quote:
Originally Posted by amiman99 View Post
If you want to use PSX joypad as a mouse just get the PSX-Amiga converter from kipper2k http://kipper2k.com/amigaforsale/
Works great, just press "Select", mouse mode, press "Select" again, Joystick mode.
Neat enough! But you can't use both at once... and you would have to swap it from Port 1 to Port 0 as well.
__________________
Signature intentionally left blank
Mrs Beanbag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 01:45 PM   #18
amiman99
Lifetime Member
Points: 3,771, Level: 38 Points: 3,771, Level: 38 Points: 3,771, Level: 38
Activity: 27% Activity: 27% Activity: 27%
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 563
Default Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.

You could get 2 of them

The analog stick in joystick mode is used as a directional pad, but it would be nice if we could use second analog stick as a mouse. I bet is possible.
__________________
A500 KS 2.1, 1MB Chip, 68000
A600 KS 3.1, 2MB Chip, ACA630 32MB RAM
A1000 KS 1.3, 2MB RAM
A1200 KS 3.1, Blizzard IV 50MHz 64MB RAM
A2000 KS 2.1, 68030 25MHz, 6MB RAM
A3000 KS 3.1, 68030 25MHz, 16MB RAM
A4000 KS 3.0, 68040 25MHz, 16MB RAM
CDTV KS 3.1, 4MB RAM
CD32
AROS BOX
amiman99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 07:45 PM   #19
som99
Lifetime Member
Points: 9,000, Level: 63 Points: 9,000, Level: 63 Points: 9,000, Level: 63
Activity: 36% Activity: 36% Activity: 36%
 
som99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Sweden, Fort Independence
Posts: 900
Send a message via MSN to som99
Default Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.

Well time ran away today, all I managed to do today was to mod the mega drive controller I got today. Damn that D-Pad is utter crap.

Here is the filthy little thing.


It's inners are super easy to work with at least


Remove the white button 2 wire, ill keep if if I feel like restoring the controller.
Then just move the brown wire from UP to button 2.
Then just solder a switch between up and button 2 and your done.



Then I made a hole for the switch in the upper half of the case.


Here is how it looks completed, quite ok

__________________
I feel like a big can of unluck that's just about to open up on someone.
som99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 09:42 PM   #20
Rebel-CD32
Technoid
Points: 7,650, Level: 58 Points: 7,650, Level: 58 Points: 7,650, Level: 58
Activity: 1% Activity: 1% Activity: 1%
 
Rebel-CD32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Australia
Posts: 276
Send a message via MSN to Rebel-CD32
Default Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.

You can get Playstation adapters which emulate the CD32 pad and the mouse at the same time, let you program combos, use one analogue stick as a digital joystick and the other as a mouse, there's not much they can't do (except magically emulate a keyboard). AmigaManiac sells the adapters with Paul Willingham's code here - http://www.amigamaniac.com/psx2db9.html

One adapter that would be welcome would be a Sega Phaser adapter to us in the Amiga light gun games. They have all been patched with WHDLoad to use the same gun interface, the adapter was discussed here http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=21195

Love the look of the Master System pad mod!
__________________
Amiga user forever.

Last edited by Rebel-CD32; 09-07-2012 at 09:49 PM..
Rebel-CD32 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2012, 08:30 AM   #21
Mrs Beanbag
Technoid
Points: 2,674, Level: 31 Points: 2,674, Level: 31 Points: 2,674, Level: 31
Activity: 34% Activity: 34% Activity: 34%
 
Mrs Beanbag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
Posts: 366
Default Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rebel-CD32 View Post
You can get Playstation adapters which emulate the CD32 pad and the mouse at the same time, let you program combos, use one analogue stick as a digital joystick and the other as a mouse, there's not much they can't do (except magically emulate a keyboard). AmigaManiac sells the adapters with Paul Willingham's code here - http://www.amigamaniac.com/psx2db9.html
So this has two 9-pin outputs, right? There isn't a picture and the page doesn't seem to indicate that.

I have the Amiga light gun, sadly it isn't any use on my LCD screen I have wondered if it would be possible to do something clever with a web cam. I programmed a little light gun target practice app back in the day, it's very simple, but it's based on timing so any adapter would need access to the video signal too, because it needs to trigger when the beam position passes in front of the gun.
__________________
Signature intentionally left blank
Mrs Beanbag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2012, 11:33 AM   #22
Lord Aga
Technoid
Points: 2,330, Level: 29 Points: 2,330, Level: 29 Points: 2,330, Level: 29
Activity: 11% Activity: 11% Activity: 11%
 
Lord Aga's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Belgrade
Posts: 287
Default Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rebel-CD32 View Post
Hired Guns uses a modified 3 or 6 button pad
How does HG use the extra buttons ? What are they for ?
__________________
Glory to the loud-mouthed Scotsman !
Lord Aga is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2012, 02:49 PM   #23
Rebel-CD32
Technoid
Points: 7,650, Level: 58 Points: 7,650, Level: 58 Points: 7,650, Level: 58
Activity: 1% Activity: 1% Activity: 1%
 
Rebel-CD32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Australia
Posts: 276
Send a message via MSN to Rebel-CD32
Default Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs Beanbag View Post
So this has two 9-pin outputs, right? There isn't a picture and the page doesn't seem to indicate that.
These adapters only have one 9-pin plug, so they're not designed to control the mouse and joystick at the same time unfortunately. I don't know if it's a limitation of the PIC chip they use but I did always think it'd be nice if a single chip could control both inputs, I had my own ideas about a kind of hub for the CD32 which lets you plug in Playstation pads, USB mouse, keyboard, and serial devices and would plug into the two 9pin ports and the Aux port. Just dreams though, I can't build hardware.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Aga View Post
How does HG use the extra buttons ? What are they for ?
I haven't tried it since I don't have a modified pad myself, but apparently when using the joypad option you don't need to use a mouse, and the buttons perform different actions. You can download the instruction manual here - http://psygnosisamiga.free.fr/games/...tructions2.pdf
__________________
Amiga user forever.
Rebel-CD32 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2012, 01:37 PM   #24
Lord Aga
Technoid
Points: 2,330, Level: 29 Points: 2,330, Level: 29 Points: 2,330, Level: 29
Activity: 11% Activity: 11% Activity: 11%
 
Lord Aga's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Belgrade
Posts: 287
Default Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.

Yup, it makes the inventory handling easier
Thanks for the manual !
__________________
Glory to the loud-mouthed Scotsman !
Lord Aga is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2012, 05:48 PM   #25
som99
Lifetime Member
Points: 9,000, Level: 63 Points: 9,000, Level: 63 Points: 9,000, Level: 63
Activity: 36% Activity: 36% Activity: 36%
 
som99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Sweden, Fort Independence
Posts: 900
Send a message via MSN to som99
Default Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.

Got a shipment of new controllers to play with


Now Ill have something to work with
__________________
I feel like a big can of unluck that's just about to open up on someone.
som99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2012, 06:23 PM   #26
amiman99
Lifetime Member
Points: 3,771, Level: 38 Points: 3,771, Level: 38 Points: 3,771, Level: 38
Activity: 27% Activity: 27% Activity: 27%
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 563
Default Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.

and...how many joysticks do you need...?
__________________
A500 KS 2.1, 1MB Chip, 68000
A600 KS 3.1, 2MB Chip, ACA630 32MB RAM
A1000 KS 1.3, 2MB RAM
A1200 KS 3.1, Blizzard IV 50MHz 64MB RAM
A2000 KS 2.1, 68030 25MHz, 6MB RAM
A3000 KS 3.1, 68030 25MHz, 16MB RAM
A4000 KS 3.0, 68040 25MHz, 16MB RAM
CDTV KS 3.1, 4MB RAM
CD32
AROS BOX
amiman99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2012, 07:06 PM   #27
som99
Lifetime Member
Points: 9,000, Level: 63 Points: 9,000, Level: 63 Points: 9,000, Level: 63
Activity: 36% Activity: 36% Activity: 36%
 
som99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Sweden, Fort Independence
Posts: 900
Send a message via MSN to som99
Default Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.

Quote:
Originally Posted by amiman99 View Post
and...how many joysticks do you need...?
Hehe I mod them all then keep a few for myself the rest ill give to people in need of new gamepads for their Amigas
__________________
I feel like a big can of unluck that's just about to open up on someone.
som99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2012, 07:58 PM   #28
amiman99
Lifetime Member
Points: 3,771, Level: 38 Points: 3,771, Level: 38 Points: 3,771, Level: 38
Activity: 27% Activity: 27% Activity: 27%
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 563
Default Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.

Recently I acquired a Vectrex system, love the vector graphics on it, but I only have one original controller.The original controllers are very expansive, so I need a cheaper route.
I need to get some SNES pads, so I can do a Vectrex mod on them. Requires a new PCB for it to work properly. I have the schematics and the only obstacle is the home made PCB.
__________________
A500 KS 2.1, 1MB Chip, 68000
A600 KS 3.1, 2MB Chip, ACA630 32MB RAM
A1000 KS 1.3, 2MB RAM
A1200 KS 3.1, Blizzard IV 50MHz 64MB RAM
A2000 KS 2.1, 68030 25MHz, 6MB RAM
A3000 KS 3.1, 68030 25MHz, 16MB RAM
A4000 KS 3.0, 68040 25MHz, 16MB RAM
CDTV KS 3.1, 4MB RAM
CD32
AROS BOX
amiman99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2012, 09:45 PM   #29
som99
Lifetime Member
Points: 9,000, Level: 63 Points: 9,000, Level: 63 Points: 9,000, Level: 63
Activity: 36% Activity: 36% Activity: 36%
 
som99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Sweden, Fort Independence
Posts: 900
Send a message via MSN to som99
Default Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.

Quote:
Originally Posted by amiman99 View Post
Recently I acquired a Vectrex system, love the vector graphics on it, but I only have one original controller.The original controllers are very expansive, so I need a cheaper route.
I need to get some SNES pads, so I can do a Vectrex mod on them. Requires a new PCB for it to work properly. I have the schematics and the only obstacle is the home made PCB.
I don't think you need to make a new PCB, solder all lines by hand (as i did on the SNES lookalike PC controller but simpler if you are going to use an SNES controller) First just solder the buttons directly to corresponding pins then simply explained just solder the 5v to up/down/left right then just use resistors to get the 3,4v for up and right.
The left an down is a tiny bit more difficult on the Vectrex, you have to use an resistor and an voltage regulator to get the negative volatage, it's easy to get your hands on some IC 7905 regulators and it's output is steady enough for the Vectrex and paired with a resistor I see no reason why it should not work.

I see no reason why you could not fit this into a SNES gamepad so no need to make your own PCB.

I would offer to build you one, but I don't like to build anything for a system I don't own to test on before shipping off :/

EDIT: Be sure to use a multimeter BEFORE testing your creation on your vectrex to avoid destroying it

PS: im off to bed
__________________
I feel like a big can of unluck that's just about to open up on someone.

Last edited by som99; 09-17-2012 at 09:53 PM..
som99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2012, 11:46 PM   #30
Digiman
Defender of the Faith
Points: 6,596, Level: 53 Points: 6,596, Level: 53 Points: 6,596, Level: 53
Activity: 12% Activity: 12% Activity: 12%
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,045
Default Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.

Using up for accelerate/jump on Amiga games is bad game design. Amiga has two fire button capability.
Digiman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
button , gamepad , genesis or megadrive , jump , mod , simple

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump