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[Pentad]

Originally Posted by Digiman

Amiga 1000, the only Amiga that was the best desktop computer, AND best looking, in the world on the day it was launched. Downhill all the way from A500 really.

I could not disagree more. The Amiga 1000 looked very nice but was limited compared to the Amiga 3000 and 4000.

-No expansion slots/Zorro III
-Only 256k for Kickstart
-No CPU slot
-OCS only
-Side expansion was cumbersome
-No RTC

I could go on...

"Best Desktop"?? Not likely...

-P

[vox]

Originally Posted by Pentad

I could not disagree more. The Amiga 1000 looked very nice but was limited compared to the Amiga 3000 and 4000.

I could go on...

"Best Desktop"?? Not likely...

-P

All true, but idea might be it was revolutionary

[jsixis]

Originally Posted by Buzzfuzz

It's almost a tie between my 4000T and 3000T, those don't have whacky problems and are expandable.

+1 I love my 3000T and would like a 4000 someday, doesn't have to be a tower but with LCD monitors available the 4000 is more desirable to me now. You get AGA and CF cards ext.

[Haranguer]

The A1200 gets my vote. I got mine in September of '94 and it gave me good service for many years. It has a 40 MHz Blizzard 1230 II with 4 Meg of Fast RAM, and a 200 Meg HDD.

Mostly it still works, but I'm having trouble with the HDD.

[Akiko]

The A4000T is the coolest and most expandable Amiga ever.

[som99]

Originally Posted by Akiko

The A4000T is the coolest and most expandable Amiga ever.

OHH! That A4000T looks really good! Nice color on it!

[desiv]

Originally Posted by Pentad

-No expansion slots/Zorro III

It had an expansion slot. On the side. It wasn't Zorro III, but it was many many years before Zorro III. That's like complaining that it didn't have PCI or AGP. ;-)

Originally Posted by Pentad

-Only 256k for Kickstart

You could softkick higher if you had extra RAM.

Originally Posted by Pentad

-No CPU slot

But there were CPU accelerators that attached to the CPU and/or side expansion.

Originally Posted by Pentad

-OCS only

No ECS is not really a big deal. Not many people actually used those modes.
I do agree that the big drawback was that it was stuck with 512M CHIP, which is a problem.. Only solution I'm aware of to that is a motherboard replacement, and those are hard to come by...

Originally Posted by Pentad

-Side expansion was cumbersome

That's a matter of opinion. I like side expansions myself.. ;-)

Originally Posted by Pentad

-No RTC

That's silly. Adding a RTC is easy. Lots of expansions came with one.

And considering the jump in technology, the 1000 was a HUGE jump. Most of the other Amigas were littler jumps, and it took way to long to get there..

For it's time, I still say the A1000 was the best.
For today, I'd have to say the A1200. Cost, expansion, features...

The 3000 was great looking and had the built in flicker fixer. Nice. But no improved graphics. (ECS doesn't count)
The 4000 had AGA and lots of slots, but lost the Flicker Fixer.

Nice machines, but no Amiga 1000.. ;-)

desiv

[lassie]

Originally Posted by som99

OHH! That A4000T looks really good! Nice color on it!

Do you know what those blue lights are with numbers?

[CritAnime]

Looks like some sort of fan control.

[Digiman]

Originally Posted by Pentad

I could not disagree more. The Amiga 1000 looked very nice but was limited compared to the Amiga 3000 and 4000.

-No expansion slots/Zorro III
-Only 256k for Kickstart
-No CPU slot
-OCS only
-Side expansion was cumbersome
-No RTC

I could go on...

"Best Desktop"?? Not likely...

-P

Originally Posted by desiv

It had an expansion slot. On the side. It wasn't Zorro III, but it was many many years before Zorro III. That's like complaining that it didn't have PCI or AGP. ;-)

You could softkick higher if you had extra RAM.

But there were CPU accelerators that attached to the CPU and/or side expansion.

No ECS is not really a big deal. Not many people actually used those modes.
I do agree that the big drawback was that it was stuck with 512M CHIP, which is a problem.. Only solution I'm aware of to that is a motherboard replacement, and those are hard to come by...

That's a matter of opinion. I like side expansions myself.. ;-)

That's silly. Adding a RTC is easy. Lots of expansions came with one.

And considering the jump in technology, the 1000 was a HUGE jump. Most of the other Amigas were littler jumps, and it took way to long to get there..

For it's time, I still say the A1000 was the best.
For today, I'd have to say the A1200. Cost, expansion, features...

The 3000 was great looking and had the built in flicker fixer. Nice. But no improved graphics. (ECS doesn't count)
The 4000 had AGA and lots of slots, but lost the Flicker Fixer.

Nice machines, but no Amiga 1000.. ;-)

desiv

Desiv you pretty much covered all I would say.

The A1000 doesn't have the ability for 1mb or 2mb chipram no, but you can still put in an ECS Denise if you like. The side slot is called Zorro 1 and a small side expansion for 4/8mb RAM expansions is not exactly going to use up more deskspace than an A500 with 1084 still.

Anyway it is all opinion but for me seeing as even the A500 plus and A600 didn't improve the number of sound channels or the number of colours on screen in lo-res and lo-res lace it makes no difference. Hence I put A1000 first (does everything an A2000/500 does technically including half-brite and you could add hard drives, SCSI CDROM, 32bit fast RAM with upto 030 accelerators. even had it's own XT bridgeboard style expansion) for 1985 it was AWESOME IMO

And then A1200 mentioned as that was a good deal for £299 after initial launch price discounting kicked in by the following spring, to play Super Stardust on PC you needed a Pentium 100/120mhz vs plain vanilla A1200 @ 14mhz

edit: there was an internal 24bit video adaptor, from Germany I think, that plugged into Denise for A500 and that also worked in A1000 so you could even have 24bit graphics even if you discount the DCTV (which you shouldn't). Not saying these parts are easy to find today but then nor is an A2000 with massive upgrade spec easy to find for a price sane people are willing to pay so who cares

[Cass]

Originally Posted by lassie

Hello everybody what is your favorite Amiga and why

It`s the one you use.

[som99]

Originally Posted by lassie

Do you know what those blue lights are with numbers?

Fan and temp controller, can't see exactly wich one but could be one of aeroCool's controllers, but hard to tell on the pic.

[lassie]

Originally Posted by som99

Fan and temp controller, can't see exactly wich one but could be one of aeroCool's controllers, but hard to tell on the pic.

But it sure could be nice to have this Amiga 4000T

[klx300r]

Originally Posted by Pentad

I could not disagree more. The Amiga 1000 looked very nice but was limited compared to the Amiga 3000 and 4000.

-No expansion slots/Zorro III
-Only 256k for Kickstart
-No CPU slot
-OCS only
-Side expansion was cumbersome
-No RTC

I could go on...

"Best Desktop"?? Not likely...

-P

you are missing the point in that Digiman noted it was the best home computer the day it was launched and it was 'THE Amiga" before Commodore tainted it. Of course future Amiga's had more expandability etc. BUT no one can deny the impact the A1000 had on the entire computer industry and not just the Amiga per say.

My vote is for the almighty Amiga 1000 as not only was it the best looking desktop IMHO but it led the way where all other future Amiga models only followed unfortunately.

[lassie]

Originally Posted by klx300r

you are missing the point in that Digiman noted it was the best home computer the day it was launched and it was 'THE Amiga" before Commodore tainted it. Of course future Amiga's had more expandability etc. BUT no one can deny the impact the A1000 had on the entire computer industry and not just the Amiga per say.

My vote is for the almighty Amiga 1000 as not only was it the best looking desktop IMHO but it led the way where all other future Amiga models only followed unfortunately.

Hi have any of you noticed that Commodore 128D looks a lot like Amiga 1000. i have a 128D but no Amiga 1000 :-( but from the pictures i have seen they look a lot like each other