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[orb85750]

Originally Posted by Forcie

Natami lives and is being developed. I am one of the system testers. However the homepage and a lot of the promises about the system is the work of Gunnar von Boehn, who left the project several months ago. That is why the public activity on the Natami page and forum is low. Surprisingly few people wants to know actual facts about the system in its current state, they want to hear promises and propaganda. And with the guy willing to make propaganda gone - well, you get it

The Natami is most likely to resurface under another project name, with goals more in line with what the main developer Thomas Hirsch wants to do with the system. We will see if there will be further public updates or not until completion.

Thanks for the info. I know there are many of us that would like to receive updates (of any kind) and are excited about the future release of Natami -- or whatever it's called at the time of its release.

[ppcamiga1]

Originally Posted by Forcie

Natami lives and is being developed. I am one of the system testers. However the homepage and a lot of the promises about the system is the work of Gunnar von Boehn, who left the project several months ago. That is why the public activity on the Natami page and forum is low. Surprisingly few people wants to know actual facts about the system in its current state, they want to hear promises and propaganda. And with the guy willing to make propaganda gone - well, you get it

Thank You for Your explanation.

Maybe it's time to change homepage, and official denial of Gunnar propaganda.

The Natami is most likely to resurface under another project name, with goals more in line with what the main developer Thomas Hirsch wants to do with the system.

A more realistic and We understand?

[vox]

Originally Posted by Kronos

Well "NetBooks" and "UltraBooks" will more or less merge with tablet+kbd replacing the lower end.

The reall issue with the LimeBook (aka OS4book) is that it allready was a bottomdweller when it was introduced years ago.

Agreed with Kronos. Scrap the design, and build a more suitable one with Varisys.

[vox]

Originally Posted by VingtTrois

+1
I would like a TABLET with AMIGA X1000 technologies inside! Is it possible?

No, PA Semi board is way to complex. Maybe SAM 460 could make it.
In theory PA Semi is made for low power non desktop use, but such board never surfaced.

[vox]

Originally Posted by Forcie

Natami lives and is being developed. I am one of the system testers. However the homepage and a lot of the promises about the system is the work of Gunnar von Boehn, who left the project several months ago. That is why the public activity on the Natami page and forum is low. Surprisingly few people wants to know actual facts about the system in its current state, they want to hear promises and propaganda. And with the guy willing to make propaganda gone - well, you get it

The Natami is most likely to resurface under another project name, with goals more in line with what the main developer Thomas Hirsch wants to do with the system. We will see if there will be further public updates or not until completion.

Thanks Forcie, very sad to hear human factor within team slows down public release.

[spirantho]

Originally Posted by vox

Agreed with Kronos. Scrap the design, and build a more suitable one with Varisys.

If you do that you also need to treble the estimated price.... which destroys the entire point of making a netbook in the first place....

[vox]

Originally Posted by spirantho

If you do that you also need to treble the estimated price.... which destroys the entire point of making a netbook in the first place....

OK, offer a promised model AND offer a more advanced variant with 766MHz SAM 440 board, integrated RadeonHD and 1GB DDR RAM, fast SATA 2,5 hard drive and max monitor size. Linux, MorphOS and OS4 preinstalled would be nice, Squeeze for 10, MOS for test (105E Key) and OS 4.2 as bundled.

[Nitrous]

Originally Posted by adonay

My tablet came with a keyboard.
I have replaced my laptop with the tablet . I can even plug in a Hardrive or a wireless mouse and micro +normal sd cards.
It works great on web. Makes no noise, no heat and can do all my office work i do offshore "raports" etc.
Has a quadcore cpu that seem to handle all lesser tasks ok.

I have the same one, it would be great if someone could do a port of uae that could capture the android mouse pointer like winuae does on windows.

[Iggy]

Actually, Gunnar put off a lot of people (me included).
Thomas might be better off without him.

[commodorejohn]

Originally Posted by vox

OK, offer a promised model AND offer a more advanced variant with 766MHz SAM 440 board, integrated RadeonHD and 1GB DDR RAM, fast SATA 2,5 hard drive and max monitor size. Linux, MorphOS and OS4 preinstalled would be nice, Squeeze for 10, MOS for test (105E Key) and OS 4.2 as bundled.

"And two hard-boiled eggs."

*HONK!*

"Make that three hard-boiled eggs."

[desiv]

Originally Posted by Iggy

Actually, Gunnar put off a lot of people (me included).
Thomas might be better off without him.

I'm not that familiar with the dynamic..
Wasn't Gunnar the hardware guy?
Are there still any real low level hardware guys involved or is it all software guys left?
Is the current board done enough that it doesn't need any more hardware work?

Just wondering...

desiv

[OlafS3]

I am not involved anymore. Gunnar is a hardware guy but in reality it is and was Thomas Hirsch who develops this board (he is a hardware guy too, I think he and Gunnar both worked at IBM)

[matthey]

Originally Posted by desiv

I'm not that familiar with the dynamic..
Wasn't Gunnar the hardware guy?

No. My understanding is that Thomas Hirsch is THE hardware guy working on the new SAGA board and that no other hardware guys are helping with the board design.

Originally Posted by desiv

Are there still any real low level hardware guys involved or is it all software guys left?

Jens Künzer and Christoph Hoehne are supposedly still working on the fpga CPU. At least Jens has made posts that indicate so and Christoph has bought Gunnar's proto board after he left.

Originally Posted by desiv

Is the current board done enough that it doesn't need any more hardware work?

No. It's usable but not complete. Some features are not active as they are unfinished, untested or need bug fixing. I would imagine many can be fixed in the fpga or firmware without hardware changes.

[Darrin]

So can anybody actually state for a fact what the new intended specs for thge Natami are going to be?

[matthey]

Originally Posted by Darrin

So can anybody actually state for a fact what the new intended specs for the Natami are going to be?

Maybe, but he ain't talking :/. The release specs would be whatever Thomas decides is good enough when he decides to release it. My guess is that it will include:

-SAGA (much faster and better/larger chip memory, blitter, planar gfx)
-68060 processor board, 512 MB of DDR2 memory
-USBv2, PS2, Ethernet, IDE with DMA, CompactFlash/flashdisk, PCI and classic Amiga ports
-built in scan doubler/deinterlacer and DVI port

Probably included would be:

-optional N68050 fpga CPU
-chunky modes
-significantly upgraded audio (16 bit)

Maybe included:

-fpga FPU

Unlikely to be included:

-case
-complete drivers
-all bugs fixed
-3D
-fpga MMU

The later the release date the more that could be included of course.