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[NorthWay]

Originally Posted by LoadWB

Does it look like this?

Yep, that's the one. Thanks for the info, I'll have to google yet more.

[danbeaver]

Yes, it will cost five dollars on *bay to convert from a 50-pin SCSI cable to an 80-pin SCA. And you end up plugging power into the five buck interface and setting the device number. I had to save up for months to afford it

[NorthWay]

I ordered mine through Amazon UK. Was a little more than $5 but for once something on the cheap side.

[danbeaver]

Well the SCA drive will be so much faster than any Amiga SCSI interface that it will be waiting for the interface to catch up. To the best of my knowledge, the Phase 5 SCSI interface (NEC 53C770) on a 68-pin bus is about the fastest Amiga interface there is, and now the HDD's are as inexpensive or less than their CF counter-parts. I have backups on both, but now the HDDs coming out of service with their servers are as cheap to buy as potato chips.

[LoadWB]

Originally Posted by danbeaver

Well the SCA drive will be so much faster than any Amiga SCSI interface that it will be waiting for the interface to catch up. To the best of my knowledge, the Phase 5 SCSI interface (NEC 53C770) on a 68-pin bus is about the fastest Amiga interface there is, and now the HDD's are as inexpensive or less than their CF counter-parts. I have backups on both, but now the HDDs coming out of service with their servers are as cheap to buy as potato chips.

I have colleagues who know I still work a lot with SCSI just bring me their old server drives. I wipe them and check them for errors. I haven't yet had a single one with errors. I have a multitude of sizes hanging around right now which I will soon be making available. Sadly, the last time I had a bunch of SCSI drives I literally couldn't GIVE them away -- no one would take them! They wound up in the dump. I'm hoping this time I'll have better luck getting them into the hands of people who will use them.

[danbeaver]

Everybody likes potato chips!

Yeah, but in a few years they will be looking in garbage cans to find them

[k4lmp]

Originally Posted by LoadWB

I have colleagues who know I still work a lot with SCSI just bring me their old server drives. I wipe them and check them for errors. I haven't yet had a single one with errors. I have a multitude of sizes hanging around right now which I will soon be making available. Sadly, the last time I had a bunch of SCSI drives I literally couldn't GIVE them away -- no one would take them! They wound up in the dump. I'm hoping this time I'll have better luck getting them into the hands of people who will use them.

Whatever you do, don't throw them away. I still use a lot of scsi drives, and would gladly pay shipping on them if they are gonna be trashed. Thanks.

[danbeaver]

Actually, he is right. The servers being taken out of service are being checked and sold , with many in the sub 100 buck range; they would make great home servers. Once I get a better understanding of Linux Server Edition or FreeNAS, I'll put some of those "Vintage" SCA SCSI disks into use.

[freqmax]

Vintage and SCA sounds like "Vintage Quad core 5 GHz"

[k4lmp]

Originally Posted by danbeaver

Actually, he is right. The servers being taken out of service are being checked and sold , with many in the sub 100 buck range; they would make great home servers. Once I get a better understanding of Linux Server Edition or FreeNAS, I'll put some of those "Vintage" SCA SCSI disks into use.

Not to change subject on the thread, but I am running 2 NAS-FTP servers with nas4free, and 1 with openmediavault. I have found freenas takes so much memory that most old servers don't have enough. I wish the servers I am using had enough memory, but they only have 1 gig, which is plenty for nas4free, and works fine with openmediavault. Freenas takes 4 gig minimum. I use scsi servers, because I have several lying around, that I got for free, or near free, but still work fine. I have a Dell 6300 with 6 scsi HDD's, 2 Dell 2300's with 6 scsi HDD's, a Dell 2450 with 4 scsi HDD's, and a Penguin ir1250, with 4 sata HDD's. I have a few other servers, but they all use IDE. Everything is rack mounted. This is why I said earlier, please don't trash any scsi drives.

[freqmax]

Speaking of servers, what does electricity cost at your location?

[k4lmp]

Electricity is high, and going up all the time. I have 3 servers that run 24/7. My electric bill isn't too bad, though. I am sure the servers take more than a new one would, as they are older, with the newest one from 2006. I am pretty lucky, as I work for a telephone cooperative. We are also an internet provider, and do phone/voice/internet over fiber to the home, delivering a 1 gig ethernet connection to each house. Of course, it doesn't take anywhere near that much for a typical house, but it is there. Anytime we buy new servers, I either get the old ones for nothing, or buy them for little of nothing. I have tons of old computer hardware, and I don't get rid of any of it, as in my ham radio hobby, there is a lot of stuff that uses serial ports. Nowadays, there is no such thing without a usb-serial adapter. I have 5 or 6 of those but prefer to use the real thing. When it comes to old PC's and servers, I am a packratt.

[LoadWB]

Originally Posted by k4lmp

Electricity is high, and going up all the time. I have 3 servers that run 24/7. My electric bill isn't too bad, though.

I have my workstation with five hard drives (RAID-1 and RAID-5) which puts out a good bit of heat, an old AMD K6-3+ Solaris server which puts out a fair bit of heat mostly from the AT power supply, and an old customer server I'm co-locating for a while. They don't consume a lot of electricity, but between the three of them and their associated UPSs running constantly my computer room stays around 82F - 85F. I'm working to consolidate that some, though.