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Old 08-14-2012, 10:20 AM   #16
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Old drives = end of useful lifetime, high probability for "all you data are belong /dev/null"
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Old 08-14-2012, 01:00 PM   #17
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Old drives = end of useful lifetime, high probability for "all you data are belong /dev/null"
That's why we have backups. ;-)
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:54 AM   #18
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And the Amiga environment ain't the best place to execute a backup
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Old 08-15-2012, 09:25 AM   #19
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Why not just go to Mechware's site and get one of these http://a4000t.com/store/index.php?ma...roducts_id=184 I still use old scsi stuff in some of my FTP/NAS servers, but only use these in my Amigas. Easy to set up, and worth every penny.

On edit, I actually have about 6 of these, and use them even on my NAS/FTP servers for the operating systems, so all my scsi/sata space is free for storage. They boot off of the CF in the card reader, and all my HD's are free for data storage. You can get them with or without the PCMCIA adapters. I have the adapters but usually don't use them. Without the adapters, with the CF plugged directly into the reader, you have to set up LUN's on your controller, but that is not hard to do, just set it to boot from LUN 1, as the PCMCIA is LUN 0.
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:22 AM   #20
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SCSI-1/2 <--> Ethernet would be great

Works like intended without the direct hardware dependencies.
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:21 PM   #21
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I have moved away from hard drives. The benefits of CFs cards such as noise (or lack of..) and reliability outweigh anything else.

On my 4000T I was getting about 9mb/s on the built in SCSI controller
What device are you using for that?
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:22 PM   #22
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Why not just go to Mechware's site and get one of these http://a4000t.com/store/index.php?ma...roducts_id=184
Way Cool Stuff!

That looks like a winner unless someone knows a similar item that is even faster?
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:27 PM   #23
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Thanks for all the information, suggestions, and offers.

I have been able to lay my hands on some old-but-not-as-ancient-as-what-I-had disks I'll test when I find some good floppies.

Still, a memorycard based solution would be preferable.
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:59 AM   #24
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I see that there are SATA<->SCSI converters too.

Anyone have some makes and models to recommend? (Or where to buy?)
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Old 08-17-2012, 12:01 PM   #25
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With the low cost of U320 SCSI drives (I picked up four 146GB 10K Maxtor's for twenty-five bucks), I don't see a need to go the SCSI<->SATA Route. While Acard and others make an interface for standard Amiga SCSI-to-SATA devices, they are in the $$$ range. Cheaper is an IDE to SATA adapter, but rather slow and with the Amiga+IDE's issues with secondary drive/ ATAPI support
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U320 is also very different from SCSI-1/2 so a serious converter will still be needed..
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Old 08-17-2012, 01:58 PM   #27
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What device are you using for that?
I was using an Acard SCSI-IDE converter and then an IDE -CF card adapter
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The 4 drives I scrunged for myself yesterday are making me uncertain: They have no power plug. Is this some low-voltage or other standard that gets power from the bus connector? Will it work with my old controller?


(And my 4000 is turning into a nightmare. Every regular floppy would just boot to an open shell, I would get 8000000B from wossname cybremovable driver until I pulled the external cable altogether, and when I booted Hybris it showed errors in the background gfx - either chipset errors or memory errors if I'm lucky)
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The 4 drives I scrunged for myself yesterday are making me uncertain: They have no power plug. Is this some low-voltage or other standard that gets power from the bus connector? Will it work with my old controller?
Does it look like this?


If so, then it's an SCA interface which has all the data an power lines in one interface and you will need an adapter to connect it to your computer.
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