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Old 07-14-2012, 01:06 PM   #31
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Default Re: Computer Social Experiment gone wrong MooBunny site Broken

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but it does have occasional gems. Things that only get posted to moo and turn out to be confirmed as facts later on.
That doesn't mean that's it's useful.
A program that randomly generates statements would eventually turn out items that would be true later on..

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For instance the fact that mr Hermans had left A-Eon appeared first on the moo. It'd be a shame to not have such channel for rumors and gossip.
Also, I think it's likely that if there weren't a Moo, they would have posted elsewhere...

I'm totally OK with totally unmoderated forums. People are free to visit or not visit..

But I don't think people should fool themselves into thinking that a few "gems" mean it's useful and/or those wouldn't have been posted elsewhere...

But it's a free internet.. Have fun..

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Old 07-14-2012, 02:44 PM   #32
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any fix is better than the crapflooding that is happening.
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Old 07-14-2012, 02:47 PM   #33
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How can you prove it's the same guy?
His was using a static IP last year. If it is him, his ISP should have logs showing him connecting to the proxy server(s) that was used in the recent attack on Moo during the recent attack.
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Old 07-14-2012, 02:54 PM   #34
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His was using a static IP last year. If it is him, his ISP should have logs showing him connecting to the proxy server(s) that was used in the recent attack on Moo during the recent attack.
No, that won't work. See https://www.torproject.org/about/ove...n#whyweneedtor

TL;DR: The ISP would only see that the user has connected to tor (and maybe not even that if the perpetrator knows how to use a bridge). The target site only sees someone coming from a TOR exit-node IP address. There is no direct way to connect these two. You could try to perform some time based analysis but that would require access to some very accurate packet logs, and that alone still would not be enough to legally tie the user to the tor activity.

One possibility would be to attempt to reveal the identity through some external application by luring the perpetrator to open some file while browsing with tor. This only works if the perpetrator is careless enough to mix normal and tor browsing.

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Old 07-15-2012, 05:16 AM   #35
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Proxied or not, the spammer made plenty of threats to flood the place shortly before it happened.

I won't bother repeating them all, suffice to say, see here.
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Old 07-15-2012, 12:49 PM   #36
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Proxied or not, the spammer made plenty of threats to flood the place shortly before it happened.

I won't bother repeating them all, suffice to say, see here.
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Old 07-15-2012, 01:12 PM   #37
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That thread on Franko's web forum is sad and pathetic. That man has no life whatsoever. And of course he had to detail his mess on his own site because the only other site where he was free to "gibber sh ite", as he says, without getting banned is down due to his own antisocial behavior. He really shot himself in the foot with that one!
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:29 PM   #38
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Rather than a patchwork shielding of the destination, why not cut off the source?

The resolution is simple: complain to Sky Broadband UK that one of their customers is using their services to generate unsolicited spam, backed up with IP records as evidence. Even where proxies have been used, they should be able to tie that in with Franko's IP accessing the proxy at the relevant times.

Internet service removal, Goodbye Franko, headache gone, internet happier.

He's given all the ammunition required, it's just whether John has the time/will to do anything about it. Alternatively, he could ask a UK representative to manage the complaint on behalf of the site (no work/effort for John) to accomplish the same.

I stick by my initial feeling on this: it's like watching a blog of someone going through a nervous breakdown.
If you're going to copy my posting verbatim, at least put my name on it please. :-)
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:51 PM   #39
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That thread on Franko's web forum is sad and pathetic. That man has no life whatsoever. And of course he had to detail his mess on his own site because the only other site where he was free to "gibber sh ite", as he says, without getting banned is down due to his own antisocial behavior. He really shot himself in the foot with that one!
It really is quite astounding isn't it?
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Old 07-15-2012, 04:13 PM   #40
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Cleaned up Moo is back!

No posting yet though... seems to be borked.
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Old 07-15-2012, 04:34 PM   #41
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A nasty website filled with trolls, not suprissing some of the names championing it.
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Old 07-15-2012, 04:48 PM   #42
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A nasty website filled with trolls, not suprissing some of the names championing it.
A different environment from the forums. I will interact with my friends in a pub differently from how I interact with them in the library.

Extending the analogy, interesting discussions and arguements can still be had without being offended or distracted by the inane and offensive background drivel.

Having stayed away for years based on what I've seen when passing on occasion, it's only when I've stopped in for a pint that I've begun to appreciate the spirit of the place.

Franko came in, p155ed up every wall and smashed up the furniture to prove a point (not even a cogent one).
That's John Shephard's house. It may be a raucous party or a depraved den much of the time, but you still don't come in and break up the place. Those are the actions of a tosser.
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:42 PM   #43
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The amiga section is back now (with posting). It is now using reCAPTCHA to filter out the automated spam.

http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi...a/225541.shtml
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Looks like the Moo spammers have finally been beat. It took a long time.
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Old 07-16-2012, 07:40 AM   #45
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Looks like the Moo spammers have finally been beat. It took a long time.
Well, I don't think John likes to step in for a number of reasons. It will be nice to be free of the gay spam and such, but for a forum with no login it's surprising that moobunny never got any "commercial" spam. It almost seems like spammer automation now expects to set up an account first then spew, and that automation just won't work on a forum with no login - a bit ironic.

Anyway, no matter who the spammer was they will certainly have a hard time of it now. Sad that things had to come to this, but I think it's a reasonable tradeoff.
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