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Hi All, my 500+ finally arrived and so I eagerly took it apart and inspected it - not in the best of condition unfortunately and going to need either surgery or a heart transplant.
The battery has definitely leaked and some how caused corrosion to the Gary Socket Contacts which mostly disintegrated when I removed the Gary Chip - The chip itself seems to be fine and I was able to clean it up quite well. Gary Socket: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/71121999/Ami...%2008%20PM.jpg Not yet cleaned up Gary Chip: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/71121999/Ami...%2007%20PM.jpg Bad battery!: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/71121999/Ami...%2031%20PM.jpg Bad Battery Removed showing some surface Damage to the PCB - I wonder if this has killed the Mobo?: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/71121999/Ami...PM%20(HDR).jpg There was also a tiny amount of rust on a couple of the Shields but it hadn't done any damage to the Mobo. So Im hoping I can just replace the broken Gary Socket (AJ, might need your help on this one as I dont have a de-soldering station) to revive my poor 500+ otherwise it's going to need a heart transplant.
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*runs away and hides*
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What do you reckon AJ, do you have the skilz to de-solder the Gary socket and help me put in a new one? (the installing socket part I can manage, it's the removing part I cant)
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Damn that is a lot of acid damage to the mobo... its crawled its way to many IC and sockets
so sad to see a A500+ in this condition.The Gary chip should be okay, the socket might clean up well without needing to replace. A thin stiff brush and alcohol to clean away all the mess. The resisters on the right hand side of the removed battery look bad, maybe if you going to resolder a Gary socket you should replace these as well. Best of luck! Hope you can revive this poor Miggy Az
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Quote:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/71121999/Ami...PM%20(HDR).jpg
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did you buy this as "working"?
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Bought as "powers up but can't fully test". I'm not too bothered as restoration is half the fun. It might have actually worked as is had I not pulled out the Gary chip for a Look.
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looking at the pics, I don't think it would have worked at all.
I could be wrong, but it appears there's tracks corroded completely through. bit late now, but I would have tested it before removing the ic
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Are you wanting to sell the faulty 500 plus board? You can take all the chips etc out, just needing the component above the denise chip. Will take a photo and up it a little later.
Although my soldering skills suck ;-)
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I was either going to keep it and use the chips for spares or once I hopefully get a new mobo sell the spare chips etc to recover costs. See what happens tho.
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Btw if anyone has a Gary compatible chip socket they can sell me I am going to try to repair my 500+ board first.
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Buy two 24 pin sockets from jaycar for 60 cents each
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Good idea! I'll pay them a visit tomorrow.
Btw, I figured out how to remove the broken socket, just used my side cutters to break it up into small pieces making de-soldering easier.
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Did you get this from the UK? If so, how much was the postage?
Shame about the damage, Most of the A500+ ECS compenents should fit in a standard A500 mobo that you could easily get from ebay.com.au, the only chip you may have problems fitting without adjustments is the fatter agnus. Good luck, would like to hear how you go with this.
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