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Old 12-23-2010, 01:45 PM   #61
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Default Re: automatic monitorswitch for any graphiccard

Ahh ok, so the tool monitors the screenmode and sends the signal through the parallel/serial port to the hardware to tell it to switch. Is that right? How does it work with system unfriendly software which turns off the OS?
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Old 12-23-2010, 01:54 PM   #62
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Default Re: automatic monitorswitch for any graphiccard

Just like every other amiga graphiccard (with inbuild switch like cv64, piv, .. ).
There is no difference.

If you use heavy unfriendly software on a rtg-system you can notice sound, but sometimes you can still see your frozen workbenchscreen (rtg).
This is on cv64, piv and all gfxcards with inbuild switches the same effect.

Add a tool like RunAGA to c: and the tooltypes of this demo.
It helps a lot ... (the tool is opening a pal-screen before executing the code).
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Old 12-23-2010, 02:03 PM   #63
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Default Re: automatic monitorswitch for any graphiccard

But if the OS gets switched off, e.g. by WHDLoad, how is your tool able to monitor the screen mode changes?
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Old 12-23-2010, 02:10 PM   #64
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Default Re: automatic monitorswitch for any graphiccard

WHDLoad opens a ECS/AGA screen by OS-functions before giving control to the "game".
Same with demos that uses the example standard demo startup-code (from how to code 7).

If you want to feel better ... I had the chance to talk with Frank Mariak (CGFX) about my solution.
And it turns out, that i used the same way like CGFX did it internaly. SwitchControl is "snooping" the same functions and tables.
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Old 12-23-2010, 02:17 PM   #65
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Default Re: automatic monitorswitch for any graphiccard

example from ajk (cvisionppc + indivisionaga + automatic monitorswitch)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_aVH1o0eQE
lots of whdload games

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Old 12-23-2010, 02:32 PM   #66
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Default Re: automatic monitorswitch for any graphiccard

Great stuff - sounds like an awesome solution. I assume that quitting WHDLoad triggers a standard OS function when the RTG screen mode returns?
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Old 12-25-2010, 09:59 AM   #67
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Default Re: automatic monitorswitch for any graphiccard

With quiting, WHDLoad switch back to Workbench (depending on your setting, this could be RTG).
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Old 04-03-2011, 08:03 AM   #68
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Its now available as free DIY-workshop.
http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?p=417467

I also asked dealers to produce and sell them, but they are not interested.
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Old 04-03-2011, 09:51 AM   #69
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Default Re: automatic monitorswitch for any graphiccard

Did they give a reason as to why they were not interested?
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Old 04-03-2011, 10:03 AM   #70
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Default Re: automatic monitorswitch for any graphiccard

Odd that the dealers won't produce them, as they are a great addon to a graphics cards without a build in monitor switcher.

Does this mean that if one was in the need of one or two of these switchers, they have to live without or take up one of the DIY jobs?
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Old 06-11-2012, 04:35 PM   #71
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new production soon .. if any interrest

http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?p=526385
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