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Old 05-14-2012, 05:50 AM   #106
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UP

Only 15 days left to get the chance to sign this.

54 people so far. Would be great to reach 100.
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Old 05-14-2012, 03:26 PM   #107
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You can't really believe that Jens income is basically from the hardware he makes for the Amiga community do you?
Amiga is a hobby for Jens and he creates hardware because he likes to.
OK he gets some money from time to time, but profitwise, his mk1 Indivision series was not SUCH a profit for him based on his sayings. A1200 mk1 version was indeed profitable, but the A4000/CD32 version took 3 years to sell out and his ECS series didn't go as well as he planned.
I'm not a businessman myself but I guess investing to something that MIGHT give you some ROI back in 3 years... is a bad investment.
Recently he announced also that his has another field of income and way more profitable.

I really hope you'll gain something with this petition but I certainly doubt it.
Jens bought the rights and schematics for the Apollo boards just to get rid of them from the community. As he said numerous times, Apollo's weren't made (at least from his POV) right and created only fuss and grief to it's owners (especially the Apollo 630 which he hates deadly lol).
I can't judge his own perspective although I tend to disagree with his attitude from time to time.

Well put Mfilos! We should be happy anything is made for amiga, it is rarely profitable and most the time is nearly a labor of love.

Apollo boards are junk. the scsi is bad,the board trace routing is bad,the main connectors on many boards are bad or low quality and have the signature leaking batteries.. Apollo is a plague more than anything. I can't
blame Jens for wanting to bury them. Why not spend a bit more money and get a decent accelerator. I seriously doubt Jens will ever release the Mach chip code ever.

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Old 05-14-2012, 03:44 PM   #108
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I like my Apollo 1230.
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Old 05-15-2012, 02:31 AM   #109
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I like my Apollo's too. There's nothing wrong with it. On the other hand, there could well be faulty Apollo's out there, but that counts for other brands too.
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Old 05-15-2012, 03:57 AM   #110
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If you're all so happy about open hardware design, why not create an open accelerator design project?

Asking people to give away their investments for free rarely leads to something.
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:38 AM   #111
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Why don't you talk to George Braun instead? Maybe he can help you with a new 060 design.
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Old 05-15-2012, 06:50 AM   #112
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If you're all so happy about open hardware design, why not create an open accelerator design project?

Asking people to give away their investments for free rarely leads to something.
Beyond adapting a 020 cpu as a simple accelerator its pretty complex to hookin any CPU faster than that..
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Old 05-22-2012, 01:24 PM   #113
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Only 9 days left. 63 signatures yet.
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:05 AM   #114
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Hi Amiga.org friends.

I have got a petition online to try and convince our friends Jens Schoenfeld from Individual Computers to release the rights on schematics and CPLD code of the Apollo boards. He is the legal owner of all this, but notoriously he doesn't want to release the datas nor offer any support for the boards.
It is just a shame to let an Apollo 1260 die because we are unable to reprogram a new Mach 131 for it.
With hundreds of requests through this petition, may be he will change his mind and save the future of Apollo boards.
Please sign it here before 5/31/2012: http://www.petitionduweb.com/Petitio...ity-11476.html
You are welcome even if you don't have (yet) an Apollo board.

Thanks in advance.


EDIT:
Here is the translation of the page you have after clicking on "SIGN":

Civilite *

Nom *
Prénom *
E-mail *

Date de naissance *
Adresse *
Code postal *
Ville *
Pays *
Profession :
"Civilité" : Choose Mr for Mister, Mlle for Miss, Mme for Mrs
"Nom": Name
"Prénom": First name
"Date de naissance": Birthdate with day before month as DD-MM-YYYY
"Adresse": Adress
"Code postal": zipcode
"Ville": City
"Pays": Country
"Profession": job (not required)

We french people make the effort to write in english in UK/US boards even if we are really bad at foreign languages, so, for once, please support the Amiga in french
Today is the last day!
Don't miss the opportunity to add your signature to the 69.
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