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Old 05-08-2012, 09:24 PM   #361
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I dunno, having a dog play a role like Mitchie is in my opinion poor taste... Its just like trying to be something that your not.. The original certainly has big shoes to fill which is best left untouched.
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Old 05-09-2012, 12:25 AM   #362
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erm...it getsgetting better though as someone over at AW has suggested:

"Barry and his... erm... 'staff' (for lack of a better word) like to feel important. They probably haven't paid a single cent of licensing fees for the Commodore name (they didn't pay anything until December and they are renegotiating since then, IIRC) and they most certainly didn't pay for the Amiga license yet. They get all of this attention and the accompanying hard-on for free. Best way to make them feel miserable is to ignore them."

So it could well be that Amiga Inc. have given the name out on a "loan" basis...or haven't been paid anything yet...could this be the case?
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Old 05-09-2012, 12:37 AM   #363
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errrk does it really matter, the only way you will be able to find out is if you ask Amiga Inc yourself.. You could say your interested in licensing the name whatever to get your foot in the door..
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Old 05-09-2012, 01:13 AM   #364
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That would be interesting actually. Ask them if you can license the name "Amiga" for your computer, tell them that you heard someone had an exclusive license to ALL computers bearing the name Amiga, and see what they say... if they say you can have it for a price, then C=USA do not have an exclusive license.
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Old 05-09-2012, 04:04 AM   #365
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They probably only paid for Commodore logo but as the Amiga trademark is dead Amiga Inc are fukt now and couldn't have sold it.

The best they could have done to avoid problems would have been replica cases, but I suspect C64x didn't make much of a profit hence VIC Mini/Amiga Mini bolloks
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Old 05-09-2012, 04:08 AM   #366
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They probably only paid for Commodore logo but as the Amiga trademark is dead Amiga Inc are fukt now and couldn't have sold it.

The best they could have done to avoid problems would have been replica cases, but I suspect C64x didn't make much of a profit hence VIC Mini/Amiga Mini bolloks
That's exactly what they can't do though.

The Amiga trademark is only dead for software. For hardware it's still alive, but not for cases. However, the trade-mark does cover disk drives.

I suspect this is why all the C=USA "bare bones" systems all come with blu-ray drives built-in. This way they can claim it's a disk drive, as they don't have the license to produce a case.
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Old 05-09-2012, 07:40 AM   #367
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They probably only paid for Commodore logo
No, they didn't. They had licensed the Commodore logo from Asiarim, who explained in all of its (publicly available) SEC filings that their single licensor CUSA - which was supposed to be their main source of income - hadn't paid yet. Asiarim started to go downhill towards the end of last year, while Barry/Dammy started to hint that CUSA might become the next owner of the trademarks ("Commodore trademark has a new daddy"). Currently, Asiarim and Commodore Holdings - the former owner of the Commodore trademarks - are fighting in court over the ownership of the trademarks.

IMHO, it's pretty safe to assume that CUSA didn't pay any licensing fees for the Commodore logos so far.

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The "Amiga trademark" isn't dead. The one covering software has been cancelled by the USPTO, but that one was only filed in 2006, IIRC. During the rest of the Amiga's lifetime, there was only one trademark covering hardware - and that one is still alive.

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So it could well be that Amiga Inc. have given the name out on a "loan" basis...
CUSA are still many months away from delivering actual Amiga branded product. The recent 'launch' of the Amiga Mini was just a press release and photoshopped pictures.

I'm simply assuming that Barry wouldn't pay upfront, he can't be that dumb.

Edit: Just saw on c-a.org that Barry claims the Amiga Mini cases will arrive 'real soon now' (tm), so perhaps payment is due sooner than I thought.

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Old 05-09-2012, 10:10 AM   #368
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Actually having the dog on the board of directors is pretty Boss.
Seems Moochie is doing most of work and thinking, is only cute and non-violent being there. And so much lawyars, PRs, family ... and yet so little innovation and such campaigns. In public companies people get rotated or replaced. With private companies, it will be bossy until they declare to be out of bussiness, and LCCs are great for that because founders profit and other companies cannot be affected, just the ownership named at company - which is limited Amiga licence and probably rented Florida office.

So one day, PoooF as it came to existance, PoooF it will cease to exist.

And just silence and boycott is helpfull.
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Old 05-09-2012, 12:02 PM   #369
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Blue LEDs are a blight and murder on the eyes of countless innocent electronics purchasers, and anyone who uses them will be purged when the revolution comes.

CommodoreJohn doesn't **** around

But LED's should be green'ish yellow of course, amiga style.
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Blue LEDs are a blight and murder on the eyes of countless innocent electronics purchasers, and anyone who uses them will be purged when the revolution comes.
I am keeping my green LEDed pitchfork at the ready .
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:55 PM   #371
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Seems Moochie is doing most of work and thinking, is only cute and non-violent being there.

It says he was in a Pup-peroni (sp?) commercial. I would like to see it, I couldn't find it on Youtube though. I love dog food commercials, so much better than cat food commercials.
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I suspect this is why all the C=USA "bare bones" systems all come with blu-ray drives built-in. This way they can claim it's a disk drive, as they don't have the license to produce a case.
Great legal loophole, lets call Lorianos case Amiga 500 Replica and ship it with slim DVD, so we declare it Amiga 500 replica DVD drive

(it`s a joke, its already X500 and with no stickers, but Loraino is great example of "I can, you can"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3aVj1JOz_c
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It says he was in a Pup-peroni (sp?) commercial. I would like to see it, I couldn't find it on Youtube though. I love dog food commercials, so much better than cat food commercials.
Might be this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqK8nbQ2ViQ

Its nice human and caring add on to the team, let alone humor.
Is it what they animals know of our wrongdoings or we could convert Moochie to be AmigaOS user :-)
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Great legal loophole, lets call Lorianos case Amiga 500 Replica and ship it with slim DVD, so we declare it Amiga 500 replica DVD drive

(it`s a joke, its already X500 and with no stickers, but Loraino is great example of "I can, you can"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3aVj1JOz_c
It doesn't look anything like any Amiga case, it is a BBC Micro case more than A500 so that would be wrong IMO.
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Old 05-09-2012, 05:44 PM   #375
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Sorry... I couldn't resist.
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BigBentheAussie is Leo Nigro - CTO of Commodore USA. Unsure how he does his job from across the world.

http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_Corporate.aspx
they should get "Moochie" on this...sniff out if anything was actually stolen or misrepresented. Or Moochie will bury his bones in the empty computer case.

I'll bet Moochie is the most ethical of the bunch

at least he doesn't make stupid posts on message boards
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Sorry... I couldn't resist.
I see you! There is no life in the abyss that is commodore usa!
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Actually, it is us Blue Faithful who will be at a disadvantage. You see, the human eye can go from red light to near complete darkness without the need to adjust for the lighting. Blue light, however, depletes the chemicals in our retinas which are used to detect variances in lighting.

In the end, this becomes the classic "Red versus Blue" battle for our souls.
wasn't one pill for getting OUT of the Matrix and the other pill for staying in it??

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they should get "Moochie" on this...sniff out if anything was actually stolen or misrepresented. Or Moochie will bury his bones in the empty computer case.

I'll bet Moochie is the most ethical of the bunch

at least he doesn't make stupid posts on message boards
I dont know about that one! Moochie will definitely have his/her moments.. When your leading a team of Monkeys what can you do??

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Franko over at amigaworld.net

"I was kinda hoping that no one would have made that public on the forums as I've been waiting since last September for "someone" to try and officially issue a Cease & Desist or warning not to use the Amiga trademark which became "dead" on the 19th of September 2011...

Oh well, the cats out of the bag now but I'm surprised Barry didn't want to pay the fees to re-register it as he knew the Trademark was dead as I had mentioned it to him)...

So now that everyone knows it's dead then I don't suppose you'll be receiving any legal correspondence from CUSA now {even they wouldn't be daft enough to try that, would they !!!)...

Been thinking about registering it myself since last year and basically licensing it for a fee of penny to people in the community to use for their projects (that way it would end all this BS by CUSA), perhaps it's time I did so as Barry obviously has no intentions of paying the fee...

I need to decide if it's worth the fees just to finally put an end to all this BS once and for all, what do you think... "
He should, then send a Cease & Desist letter from his attorney to CUSA. That would be Awesome!
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