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Old 04-29-2012, 07:34 PM   #16
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Default Re: CUSA poised to blowjob all amiga ng os's out of the water.

Why is OP still using Ubuntu if he's a seasoned Linux user.. Slackware is the right direction for a more technical elegant distro.. When I think of Ubuntu, I think of no brainer lazy bloated installs, so perhaps COS will do well for some ppl who are new comers to linux or ppl who dont want to configure installs.

I just had to say that, I started off on linux ages ago 1999 when everything was text based installers and harder.. Now I use BSD type distro's like FreeBSD or OpenBSD.. Not great for gamers ie Nvidia/Radeon driver support but great for productivity and well organised OS/Ports instead of messy linux deps.
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:31 PM   #17
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Why is OP still using Ubuntu if he's a seasoned Linux user.. Slackware is the right direction for a more technical elegant distro.. When I think of Ubuntu, I think of no brainer lazy bloated installs, so perhaps COS will do well for some ppl who are new comers to linux or ppl who dont want to configure installs.

I just had to say that, I started off on linux ages ago 1999 when everything was text based installers and harder.. Now I use BSD type distro's like FreeBSD or OpenBSD.. Not great for gamers ie Nvidia/Radeon driver support but great for productivity and well organised OS/Ports instead of messy linux deps.
lol. deps are rarely messy these days. BSD starts out non-bloated, but unless you are only running vim and DWM, you are going to bloat the crap out of it to get it to a useable state. Hell, read up on openBSD. They only guarantee the stability on core. Its fun to run lean and mean if you have the free time to troubleshoot, but the fact is I want my install up and running quickly these days with the development tools I need - I don't want to spend all my time messing around with c-flags or other ricer crap.
I started out with linux back when Debian Buzz was all the rage. I've compiled, rpm'ed, slacked, sused, deb'd, and any other thing you can think of. Anymore, I grab an LTS of Ubuntu or Debian stable and call it good.
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:46 AM   #18
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I don't want to dis Cononical, their Ubuntu distro has managed to make Debian the king of the hill, but it really is for those who don't want to know Linux, I'm more a Gentoo fan, I like getting my hands dirty....

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Old 04-30-2012, 09:40 AM   #19
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I don't want to dis Cononical, their Ubuntu distro has managed to make Debian the king of the hill, but it really is for those who don't want to know Linux, I'm more a Gentoo fan, I like getting my hands dirty....



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Old 04-30-2012, 11:20 AM   #20
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Does it run Amiga PPC code?

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Old 04-30-2012, 06:10 PM   #21
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I definitely dont like Gentoo! I would only call GCC Ricers Gentoo users, since for every open distro your free to compile your own custom kernel. I dont seee the point to compile everything from scratch. ha! first time and last time I tried it took me something like 2 days to compile the OS on my old P133.. thats definitely a waste of time unless its a hobby or just for educational purposes but its definitely one of the fastest linux installs I've used haha no wonder when everything is compiled.

I find the BSD approach more organised and consolidated compared to linux. I do run lean installs and already have selected my favourite WM and tools thats works best for me. I only bother to recompile the kernel for efficiency, but for applications I just use binaries. Above all I prefer reliability which I didnt see in Linux in the past, things may have changed now.. I only run Linux (debian) on my Sharp Zaurus and use OpenBSD for server tasks firewalls/mail relays. FreeBSD is my workstation choice!

I am a bit bias since I've worked with Solaris and Irix before in the past.

Update - Just an afterthought, COS I believe is only poised to become yet another Linux Fork in a already cluttered landscape.. It will have to be a native 68k/PPC custom built from the ground up OS to be respected and have approval of the community.. but thats a dream....

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Old 05-01-2012, 11:35 AM   #22
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I've used slackware based distros for the longest, but I got tired of common programs that many other distros have in their repos needing to be compiled. Maybe I got lazy but point click use beats download tarballs, compile, troubleshoot, recompile, and so on.

Like it or not ubuntu made things much easier.

I roll my own dream desktop and system right on top of puppy linux now. Its portable via usb thumb drives. except for my storage drives I can have my entire computer with me every where I go. Thats a great thing.

Almost anything I want just works. Ease of use and also the ability to easily fix it if something stops working are most important to me.

Okay its not amigaos, but you can make it look and act however you want.

Thats a beautiful thing.
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:48 PM   #23
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Maybe I got lazy but point click use beats download tarballs, compile, troubleshoot, recompile, and so on.
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Thats the main reason I use *nix type OS'es to get away from Windows environments (point and click) and have something more stable. Im more of a purest and prefer more control over my environment.. After you troubleshoot/compile over time it gets pretty easy to get a gutt feeling of how to troubleshoot and keeps you on your toes..
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Old 05-09-2012, 12:50 PM   #24
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Debian or (K)Ubuntu, all good to me. These days, I kind of can't be bothered to fuss too much with getting basic stuff set up.

What people miss is that Debian or the Ubuntu variants don't close anything off. THey just give you what most people want up front. You can compile it all from scratch if you want.
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I agree this garbage needs to go away. sick of these threads.

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Old 05-10-2012, 03:28 PM   #26
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Debian or (K)Ubuntu, all good to me. These days, I kind of can't be bothered to fuss too much with getting basic stuff set up.

What people miss is that Debian or the Ubuntu variants don't close anything off. THey just give you what most people want up front. You can compile it all from scratch if you want.
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Centos is the way to go if you are building a web server VM.
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^ This. It could be the best distro in the world, it's still got squat to do with Commodore or Amiga.
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As if MorphOS, and AROS does.

Closest thing out there is Natami.

And really if you put it in mild terms, nothing out there has anything to do with Commodore or Amiga.

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As if MorphOS, and AROS does.
Uh, A. both of the above are actual Amiga OS-derived designs that are directly compatible with well-behaved Amiga software, so yes they do, and B. even if they didn't that wouldn't invalidate my point.

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No argument there, though there's also Minimig and FPGA Arcade.

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Uh, how do you figure that? There are multiple Amiga-derived projects put together by people in the community. C-OS just isn't one of them.
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Uh, A. both of the above are actual Amiga OS-derived designs that are directly compatible with well-behaved Amiga software, so yes they do, and B. even if they didn't that wouldn't invalidate my point.

MorphOS is more a piece of software like WinUAE, it emulates (not as well as winuae) the AmigaOS on a piece of inferior hardware called an old obsolete mini MAC.


No argument there, though there's also Minimig and FPGA Arcade.

Don't really consider the Minimig as Amiga, you have to look at the hardware design, and Minimig has nothing to do with the design of the Amiga.


Uh, how do you figure that? There are multiple Amiga-derived projects put together by people in the community. C-OS just isn't one of them.
People in the Community are not Commodore or Amiga, they are just people trying to say that they are designing a new (actually old) Amiga computer. By this I mean, they are not using the latest in microprocessor technology to advance the Amiga, PPC is actually dead. The only one that I think will make it is AROS, they are at least trying to design something on newer tech.

Remember, when we first bought the Amiga when it first came out, it was the latest and greatest in tech. It could do stuff that no other computer at that time could do.

Today nothing can touch the PC, it has the best designers, the best hardware and the latest in technology, it would really be hard to beat the new PC's, and as long as you keep away from Microsoft software, the PC today is a really stable platform. It is just to bad that we can't persuade the Software companies to start producing software and games for other OS's like Linux. I consider Linux the new Amiga. It multitasks nicely, is very stable and during the past 10 years that I have been using it, I have lost no information stored on my computer. The only reason I use windows is to play the new modern day games. I wouldn't trust windows for my important data.

Jay Miner taught ahead, looking into the future, that is what made Amiga so great, at the time it came out it was the future.

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