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[Amithony]

Kin-Hell wrote:

Good Wordage! :-D

I think it's alliteration, but could be wrong.

[save2600]

Or how about 'verbiage' :-)

[T3000]

save2600 wrote:
Yes indeedy that's a WinTel Toaster. I clearly remember when NewTek started selling these. It was soo strange that they'd "betray" the Amiga like that :-(

But business is business.

I wouldn't say that NewTek betrayed the Amiga. They made a smart decision to develop for the pc marketbecause they sy that the Amiga market was going to plumet. I do belive that NewTek still does repair on Amiga VT cards.

laterz

[T3000]

save2600 wrote:
Yes indeedy that's a WinTel Toaster. I clearly remember when NewTek started selling these. It was soo strange that they'd "betray" the Amiga like that :-(

But business is business.

I wouldn't say that NewTek betrayed the Amiga. They made a smart decision to develop for the pc market because they saw that the Amiga market was going to plummet. I do believe that NewTek still does repair on Amiga VT cards.

laterz

[nine3o]

Kin wrote:

I don't think we were discussing the fact of it NOT being a "Video Toaster" in it's own right.

Sorry but that is not how I read the title "A new type of Vidoe Toaster?" and the comments from Vlabguy1

I tried several times as well as sending him a web link to Altera. He still does not get it..

I read this as the device being sold is not a video toaster. Either way we agree that this is NOT a video toaster for the Amiga and the seller is misleading. :-)

[Vlabguy1]

I did send him a link to ALtera..and yes his auction is very misleading..and that aside..if he listed correctly he might get more bids.

It looked like some sort of embedded computer on a card..with the memory chip attached and the repair/mod/or jumper wire soldered across the chips..

Must be a very early Toaster for PC card..does not look like NewTek quality ..

People really think NewTek betrayed Amiga? I personally don't think that is the case. They did what they had to do in order to survive. Don't they still service Amiga Toaster&Flyer cards?
If by some miracle NewTek decides to get back into the Amiga biz again Im sure plenty of people will welcome them with open arms.. :-).

just my take..
Rich

ny

Hey NewTek..purchase the Amiga(is it forsale?) and built a killer digital video/ image editing work station..hehe..

nine3o wrote:

Sorry but that is not how I read the title "A new type of Vidoe Toaster?" and the comments from Vlabguy1

I read this as the device being sold is not a video toaster. Either way we agree that this is NOT a video toaster for the Amiga and the seller is misleading. :-)

[recidivist]

Good Grief!!!
Betray??

Newtek was supposed to go out of business just because Commodore mismanaged the Amiga into bankruptcy?

Newtek did the smart,reasonable,and moral thing:they developed a product using their expertise for the vast standard market.They stayed in business ,which was good for their employees and chose to still recognize and support legacy products. I have Newtek Windows PC hardware,too.

Business is about making money ,not just making a few hobbyists happy.

[Vlabguy1]

Well to be fair..at the time of the Commodore demise and even a few years after there were more than a few people still using the Amiga/Toaster/Flyer combo professionally.. so I would hardly call them hobbyists..

Today on the other hand the professional use of the Amiga has diminished radically to say the least. Im sure there are sum that still use it to make money..along side other machines. :-).

recidivist wrote:

Business is about making money ,not just making a few hobbyists happy.[/quote]

[recidivist]

But at that point all those likely to use an Amiga/Toaster already had one,and Newtek had to move to PC or go under.

Too bad Newtek couldn't/didn't take over the Amiga.If they had,we 'd be using the Newtek Icebox,the world's coolest computer with AmigaOS 6.5 running on a dual 2gHz PPC and AGA4.

[Vlabguy1]

mmm..well not necessarily.. I didn't not get my Toaster/Flyer sometime after..and Im sure there were some new comers to the Amiga Toaser/Flyer even after the fall of Commodore..sure not in the masses..but some.

And as I have heard ..even with VT5..there are somethings that the Amiga T/F set-up does better. Not sure though, as I have not used a VT5.

Rich
ny





recidivist wrote:
But at that point all those likely to use an Amiga/Toaster already had one,

[persia]

This is the current version:



So I take it that it is an older version than this?

[RobertB]

T3000 wrote:

I do belive that NewTek still does repair on Amiga VT cards.

Yes, Newtek still repairs Amiga Video Toasters.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/