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Old 07-13-2003, 03:14 PM   #16
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Default Re: AmigaOne Lite ITX for AT PSU

Lempkee: There are many variables affecting final board manufacturing cost.. Like number of pcb layers, board size and tolerances on manufacturing... (Via and drill sizes, trace witdhs etc.. ).. Board size itself ain't the major price factor (and smaller is cheaper if everythng else holds the same).. But if one has to use multiple additional layers for routing on undersized board (like those Blizzards for A1200) then size becomes costly.

But.. Quite frankly board manufacturing prices have never been real issue on those AmigaOnes.. Real cost comes from extra middlemen between board makers and users.
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Old 07-13-2003, 05:38 PM   #17
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Default Re: AmigaOne Lite ITX for AT PSU

Quote:
1. The Mini-A1 does not exist, and won't exist for quite a while.
True. Target is beginning 2004.

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2. It will be mATX not ITX.
Well, it is ITX (170x170mm)

BTW: Gigabit eth , USB2.0, Firewire and Cardbus. S0 DIMM memory, but 1 PCI only, gfx onboard.

And it's now called AmigaOne Lite (instead AmigaOne SE Lite) because it is based on the XE design (MegaArray cpu slot).

If you complain about PCI/gfx there is still the XE, and ...
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Old 07-13-2003, 06:46 PM   #18
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Default Re: AmigaOne Lite ITX for AT PSU

johannak: thanx for good info and honest thoughts! , i hope that this one aint beeing switched back and forth so that the price will be correct , as it will affect how many who will buy it for normal usage , its the most logical step for an a1200 owner to go...

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Old 07-14-2003, 04:31 PM   #19
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Default Re: AmigaOne Lite ITX for AT PSU

HOLY SH*T!!
It has a Megaarray CPU connector :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o

:-D Me want one :-x :-x :-x :-x :-x
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Old 07-14-2003, 06:18 PM   #20
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@joe_average:

Do you know what kind of built-in gfx? I'm guessing the microATX A1 will end up being similar to the Teron mPX (maybe a rebadge, maybe a few extra things), but I don't know of any other PPC ITX motherboards.
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Old 07-14-2003, 07:58 PM   #21
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Default Re: AmigaOne Lite ITX for AT PSU

Wow, an mATX Amiga motherboard with built-in graphics. I'd bet they're using the VIA graphics solutions found in the VIA"C" series ITX motherboards. While not exactly GeForce 4Ti class, the folks at mini-itx.com seem to like them.

As to the original poster's question, for a few dollars an AT to ATX power converter cable; given the low power requirements of the 950fx CPU, a 300w AT power supply might do well enough. Lord knows they're cheap enough if you can find them...
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Old 07-14-2003, 09:31 PM   #22
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>AT to ATX power converter cable

Hello,
I read that modern ATX power supply provide 3.3V
and +5Vsb power. Old AT PSU does not provide the
low voltage. Also the power switch of ATX is on
the motherboard, not the PSU.

Is this converter cable really works?
Does the AmigaOne mATX / ATX need 3.3 Volt?

>ITX PowerPC
There is a PowerPC 800 MHz Briq from TotalImpact
that use ordinary hard disk power supply connector.
This product is similar to ROSS SparcPlug that
enable ordinary PC user to put SparcStation clone
on the drive bay.

Unfortunately AmigaOS 4 cann't run on top of BRIQ,
because BRIQ does not use MAI chipset.
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