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[AccyD]

mdma wrote:
Just do as I am going to do.

Walk into the polling booth, write "**** off, you are all a bunch of "****s" on the voting slip, fold it up and put it in the ballot box! :-D

Please do.

When I was an active member of a party, and we were waiting / watching all of the votes being counted, it used to give us loads of fun in an otherwise dull evening to read all of the things people had wrote on their ballot cards.

Then we used to laugh at them for having enough time to waste by going into a polling booth & writing such rubbish.

AccyD wrote:

Please do.

When I was an active member of a party, and we were waiting / watching all of the votes being counted, it used to give us loads of fun in an otherwise dull evening to read all of the things people had wrote on their ballot cards.

Then we used to laugh at them for having enough time to waste by going into a polling booth & writing such rubbish.

It gets better, I don't even have to waste any of my time going to the polling station as there won't even be one this year.

I can just stick a pornographic image to my postal ballot paper and post it! :-D

[Dan]

@AccyD
The Donald Duck-party rules! :-D

[Wilse]

Then we used to laugh at them for having enough time to waste by going into a polling booth & writing such rubbish.

Better than not voting at all though.

Wilse wrote:

Better than not voting at all though.

My sentiments exactly Robert me old mucker! :-D

People died so I could have the freedom to destroy my ballot paper in protest. Everyone should vote, whether they destroy the paper or not, it's still a vote. Going to the pub instead isn't.

[zudobug]

Hey,

Don't Give Them Credibility

Democracy in this country is a sham. The idea that every five years we select a government to rule this country is an illusion. The reality is the party we choose has to answer first to business and second to the electorate. The only parties who get enough coverage for even a chance of election are those that the media choose we hear about or are given enough financial support by business to buy the exposure they need. As the media are themselves corporations any support they give to parties is based on the corporate friendly content of their policies.

...

So with the election coming up what do we do, vote Green or some other progressive party? NO any votes cast just gives the system credibility and only the usual corporate friendly suspects ever win. That's the way it's rigged. Stay at home and forget its happening? NO, the liars would just say that everyone is apathetic and too content to be bothered.

On election day get down the polling station and deface your ballot paper.

:-)

-zudo

[Wilse]

@zudo:

So with the election coming up what do we do, vote Green or some other progressive party? NO any votes cast just gives the system credibility and only the usual corporate friendly suspects ever win.

And this guy thinks that by spoiling your ballot someone else willl win?
Reality check required, methinks.

I respect anyone's right to spoil their ballot and also think it's far better than not voting at all but it's not even anywhere near an answer to the problem described here - same parties always winning.
In fact "vote Green or some other progressive party" is, in my opinion, a far more effective way of addressing that problem.

[zudobug]

Wilse,

In fact "vote Green or some other progressive party" is, in my opinion, a far more effective way of addressing that problem.

That is exactly how i used to feel. I would vote green/respect /whatever to help build their support and hopefully put them in a better position to win in the future. But i'm beginning to wonder if that's even possible.

I also see the point some people make that we should vote simply because we have the right, in respect of the many people around the globe who don't even have that.

But i am beginning to agree with this dude that it's all a sham. No matter who you, i and any other sound-minded liberal/socialists vote for, Tony B and his band of hooligans or his photocopy opposition party will win this and every election. So funk it.

And this guy thinks that by spoiling your ballot someone else willl win?

Nope. I think you've missed the point a bit (I didn't quote enough to make the point really, click the link! ;-)) Of course not voting won't change who wins. But if you at least go and spoil your ballot rather than ignoring it they will count spoilt ballots and the government can quit saying we are apathetic... I'm not apathetic - i hate them all with a passion. :-)

-zudo

[Dan]

Don't Give Them Credibility

Now thats logic!

What you can do if the electionsystem is the issue:
1. Start your own party "The Proportional representation-party"
2. Vote libdem or maybe SNP
3. Make the conscious choice of not voting, spoiling a ballot "gives the system credibility" because it the percentage of voters thats voted thats gives the system legimacy

"In ToryBlairien Nu-Labour got 13seats in parliament and won over the constipated who only got 11 seats, voter participation was 86%" (nobody is going to mention that 60% of the ballots was spolied, that won´t get reported on national level, the only ones that report spoiled votes is bored reporters for local newspaper who is watching the counting all night.)
or
"In ToryBlairien Nu-Labour got 13seats in parliament and won over the constipated who only got 11 seats, voter participation was 2%"

Which is more likely to actually lead anywhere?