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Old 07-01-2012, 11:23 AM   #1
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Old 07-01-2012, 11:32 AM   #2
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Are you an Android fan?
I'm torn there..
Longtime Linux fan, so I'm glad there's an OS variant that is gaining traction.
It has some nice features...
Fragmentation doesn't bother me...
Most people will use it for what it has available for their phone model...

So, win win?

Not totally... Why?
It's bloated...

It has to be the most bloated and slow Linux OS I've seen...

I have fun with my Android tablet, but forget rebooting it.
Takes well over a minute to boot.

My Nokia 770 tablet running Maemo (debian variant), about 10 seconds.

My 770 plays Neo Geo emulated games really well...
My "slow" (twice as fast as the 770) Android tablet barely runs any emulators, and not with sound..

It's not the hardware.. It's the OS...

Maybe you have to slow down a machine to a crawl to make it appeal to the masses, but it just bugs me...

I still hope it succeeds.. But it bugs me nonetheless.. ;-)

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Old 07-01-2012, 11:35 AM   #3
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I was looking at Ubuntu for Android. Do you think it is any good?
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Old 07-01-2012, 11:52 AM   #4
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It's an interesting hack.
If you have a super powerful phone, it's a neat add-on for Android..

But it runs on Android, it doesn't replace it..

For me, that makes it a neat project, but not much beyond that...

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Old 07-03-2012, 12:19 AM   #5
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I've been using my first Andoid phone for a year or so.
Every phone platform has it's own issues, but I'm positively surpriced, so far.

+I got a new Symbian phone and also it is good. Better than any other Nokia I have had since some 6110 series phone 10+ years ago.

I think Android devices should be a lot easier to support by our niche than any other.
I would like to see apps that enable me to use Android devices as keyboard/drawing pad for Amiga etc...
It would be nice to see Amigalikes to be the ones that are the best to work with Android...
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:03 PM   #6
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Even though Android is slow, it is ok. I think that all of the Android Java code (blue areas of diagram) is what slows Android down. The base Android Kernel and drivers are presently just patched Linux Kernel and drivers (red areas of diagram). Starting with the Linux version 3.3 Kernel, the Android Kernel patches will be in the Linux Kernel so that the Kernels will be the same at that point. Android uses Linux drivers that have an additional power management and security call added to them.

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Old 07-01-2012, 12:09 PM   #7
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Has anyone used the docking bay and monitor?
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:42 PM   #8
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Replaced the iPhone 3 GS I've had for 3 years with a Samsung Galaxy S3 late last week. I'm liking it a ton, though I'm still getting used to the GUI.

I liked the iPhone, but didn't like being locked into the bolt down Apple ecosystem where I simply couldn't transfer consumables (esp books and DRM'ed video) off the Apple system to my other devices.

I'll likely invest in one of the fairly high end Android tablets in the future since my ipad 2 is getting a little long in the tooth.

While the Android interface is not rocket science, it's a fair bit different than the Apple experience and takes a bit of getting used to. But all in all, I'd wholeheartedly recommend Android 4 (Ice Cream Sandwich) devices to people without any hesitation.

The non replaceable battery and lack of a memcard slot in the iphones, as well as the whole ecosystem simply got to be too much for me with the Apple device. Put a 64 GB memory card in this new S3 and very happy with it so far, nice and responsive and heaps of free space (96 GB total, got the 32 GB S3 model).
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Old 07-01-2012, 01:02 PM   #9
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My wife's phone is android and it seems pretty cool. Having multiple companies able to utilize it was a pretty shrewd market strategy

Apparently there'll be no Flash version going forward. Which makes the situation between android and IOS pretty interesting
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Old 07-01-2012, 01:14 PM   #10
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Are you an Android fan?
My work phone is an android HTC Desire Z. Am I a fan? Well it's ok, but it could be better.

I wish someone would bring sensible next generation qwerty phone to the market.
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Old 07-01-2012, 01:35 PM   #11
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My work phone is an android HTC Desire Z. Am I a fan? Well it's ok, but it could be better.

I wish someone would bring sensible next generation qwerty phone to the market.
out of curiosity, what are you missing in the current breed of android phones?
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Old 07-01-2012, 06:25 PM   #12
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I have some ICS tablets, they're ok, personally I prefer iOS, but really nothing wrong with Android.
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Old 07-01-2012, 07:08 PM   #13
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out of curiosity, what are you missing in the current breed of android phones?
Missing having a web browser that operates the same as desktop. Also it is a worry when you turn on wifi hotspot (The best thing about my Android phones) and the desktop web pages load quicker than your phone. Although my new galaxy sIII is quite quick but a a little to Iphoneish, I had to search for every thing, where as my HTC Desire was much more straight forward.

Yes I know its only the interface but a good interface can hide some flaws in the OS, worked for windows

Missing a good emulator, surely a phone or tablet is quicker than an "atom" processor by now?
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Old 07-02-2012, 06:58 AM   #14
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Also it is a worry when you turn on wifi hotspot (The best thing about my Android phones) and the desktop web pages load quicker than your phone.
Why is that a worry? It makes perfect sense. The cpu in your phone is doing less work and your laptop is faster. Would you be happier if they artificially slowed everything down when the phone was used as a hotspot?

Most routers run linux, installing a web browser on one and using xterm to connect to it wouldn't give you a great experience either.

I'm not saying that android is brilliant, but for the cost of a mid range phone it's good enough for what I need. An iphone wouldn't be a better phone for me and it's alot more expensive.
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I'm more concerned if RIM will actually be in business as a handset maker in 2-3 years, tbh. They are absolutely hemorrhaging cash atm.

I smell a buyout coming.
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