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[SysAdmin]

News from Rogue via amigaworld.net


Hyperion Entertainment has opened up their new Developer Blog to the public. On this blog, we intend to inform you in irregular intervals about news and developments on AmigaOS 4.x and others stuff. We kick off with a sneak peek at the Classic AmigaOS 4.1 with two exclusive screenshots, written by our beta tester Darren Eveland.

Enjoy the blog at http://blog.hyperion-entertainment.biz

[mattabat]

I have difficulty getting excited about this.
Assuming I can sell my left kidney etc. to get a PPC card for my A1200. What do I get out of AOS4.1 Classic to make it worth my while?
If only it worked with Intel generic architecture..

[Iggy]

Originally Posted by mattabat

If only it worked with Intel generic architecture..

What? PPCs are "Intel generic architecture"?

Stoopid!

[slayer]

I own two 233mhz 604e cards

I own OS4.x for my 233mhz

I will buy OS4.1.x for my 233mhz

I am looking at getting the 5V 256Meg Radeon graphic card at this very moment

[takemehomegrandma]

Originally Posted by Iggy

What? PPCs are "Intel generic architecture"?

Stoopid!

No it's not, which kind of is OS4's problem...

[runequester]

Originally Posted by takemehomegrandma

No it's not, which kind of is OS4's problem...

Totally unlike that other amiga-derivative OS.

[takemehomegrandma]

Originally Posted by runequester

Totally unlike that other amiga-derivative OS.

...which indeed shares the "tied to the PPC anchor" faith of OS4, but at least aims to be running on all relevant PPC mainstream HW. Because if there is such a thing as mainstream PPC HW, then it consists of machines like the e-mac, mac mini, power mac and power book...

Ben Hermans and the Frieden brothers on the other hand doesn't think mainstream PPC HW is a small enough market, so they need to narrow the options down even further to systems built in batches of 30 units, costing a magnitude more, while offering less.

That shows the difference in philosophies between the two - MorphOS aims for being runnable on as many platforms as possible, and if there would have been an easy way of making it x86 to run on generic Intel HW they would probably have done it some time ago already, while OS4 wouldn't, because then "it would get pirated" (or such strange arguments)...

[klx300r]

excellent idea for the blog..we needed it!

@ Franko

time to upgrade from that 4.0 release you have that you say is so slow mate

[Franko]

Originally Posted by klx300r

excellent idea for the blog..we needed it!

@ Franko

time to upgrade from that 4.0 release you have that you say is so slow mate

Nah... Karlos won't part with his BVision and Hyperion aint getting another penny out of me after the the shamefull way the conned OS4.0 users into buying it and then dropped all support for it...

[klx300r]

Originally Posted by Franko

Nah... Karlos won't part with his BVision and Hyperion aint getting another penny out of me after the the shamefull way the conned OS4.0 users into buying it and then dropped all support for it...

well I can't comment on 4.0 matters as I went straight to OS4.1 quite happily..though keep in mind that when new hardware starting popping up (Pegs, A1's, Sams, new & upcoming Sam460ex and X1000) I was pleasontly surprised that they had time to bring the classic users up to date with OS4.1 & incorporating modern hardware for the classics

[Franko]

Originally Posted by klx300r

well I can't comment on 4.0 matters as I went straight to OS4.1 quite happily..though keep in mind that when new hardware starting popping up (Pegs, A1's, Sams, new & upcoming Sam460ex and X1000) I was pleasontly surprised that they had time to bring the classic users up to date with OS4.1 & incorporating modern hardware for the classics

I've got be honest here the Natami or the MiniMig AGA are the only possible future for me "upgrading" my Amigas. I've given up on the X1000 and Sams etc... don't really do it for me.

I simply want to be able to run all my old Amiga software like PageStream, ImageFX etc.. a wee bit faster (not into games much) and be able to buy and use new HDs/DVD drives and the like without having to pay 500 quid on ebay for an accelerator board.

Having looked at AROS, MorphOS, Broadway, OS4.1 and such I can now say they are not for me. Strange as it may seem to some I really don't want to run an Amiga that looks and feels like a PC or Mac or even use the type of software that they use. I now have a couple of Macs that take care of that side of things and I'm now even more convinced than ever that the Amiga doesn't need to try and imitate these machines.

For me 25 years of using the Amiga on a daily basis has never lost it's charm and folk can say what they want, but I'm happy using my miggies just the way gawd intended...

[bloodline]

Originally Posted by Franko

I've got be honest here the Natami or the MiniMig AGA are the only possible future for me "upgrading" my Amigas. I've given up on the X1000 and Sams etc... don't really do it for me.

I simply want to be able to run all my old Amiga software like PageStream, ImageFX etc.. a wee bit faster (not into games much) and be able to buy and use new HDs/DVD drives and the like without having to pay 500 quid on ebay for an accelerator board.

Having looked at AROS, MorphOS, Broadway, OS4.1 and such I can now say they are not for me. Strange as it may seem to some I really don't want to run an Amiga that looks and feels like a PC or Mac or even use the type of software that they use.

And running AROS on your MiniMig or Natami is totally out of the question?

[klx300r]

Originally Posted by Franko

I've got be honest here the Natami or the MiniMig AGA are the only possible future for me "upgrading" my Amigas. I've given up on the X1000 and Sams etc... don't really do it for me.

I simply want to be able to run all my old Amiga software like PageStream, ImageFX etc.. a wee bit faster (not into games much) and be able to buy and use new HDs/DVD drives and the like without having to pay 500 quid on ebay for an accelerator board.

oh, sorry I thought you still had your PPC card from your comments on other threads, anyhow I hope Natami comes out for you then as I don't think Minimig AGA will run things any faster than your current classic setup.

also, I believe AROS runs PageSteam and ImageFX quite nicely from videos that ClusterUK has out...perhaps you could try out AROS if you have an old PC lying around without investing in AOS or MOS licences

[Varthall]

Very good news, this will be a much needed communication channel from Hyperion regarding all their current projects.

Varthall

[Fransexy_]

Why the hell a thread about a developer blog for AmigaOS4 has become to another port to x86 and MorphOS/AROS vs AmigaOS4 flamewar?
Have you all become insane or what?