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[patrik]

Hi everyone!

Just got myself my very first graphics-card for an Amiga. It is great except one thing - the pointer doesnt seem to have its update locked to the vertical retrace as it is when using AGA. Its movement is quite sluggish, just like in UAE with Picasso96. Can this "pointer-update-rate" be changed in some way so I may enjoy smooth moving pointers as with AGA?


/Patrik

[Karlos]

Is it a software pointer? The pointer on my BVision is prefectly smooth, even at 1600x1200@75Hz...

[patrik]

@Karlos:

Actually I dont know for sure, but it looks like it is a hardware-pointer as it only seem to support 4 colors and one of them is transparent .

The graphic-card is a CyberVision64 and I am using CyberGraphX 4.0.

Anyhow, it feels exactly like when I am using Picasso96 in WinUAE - the pointer moves very smooth in Windows, but in UAE it feels like 60 updates per second or something similar.

(edit):
Btw, it doesnt matter what resolution I use, the movement-feeling is exactly the same.


/Patrik

[Karlos]

Hmm...

I looked at my settings, pretty sure its a hardware mouse also. I do have mouse speed set maximum and acceleration enabled however.

Incidentally, you should get the CGX 4.2 update as you own 4.0...

[patrik]

@Karlos:

I will try to update later. I guess the update requires me to insert the CyberGraphX 4.0 CD and with no CD-ROM installed at the moment... .

Tried the acceleration and maximum speed setting, but that didnt help. The thing that nags me is not the speed the mouse-pointer moves at, but the fact that it doesnt feel like it moves smooth... like it isnt redrawn often enough, or if it is a hardware pointer (as it should be) - its position isnt updated often enough.


/Patrik

[Karlos]

It is possible the pointer refresh is tied into some native graphics code. I'd expect it to be up to the actual monitor driver to patch the pointer code rather than the main cgx library since its obviously a hardware dependent feature.

I've never noticed a problem on the bvision, but UAE is a bit sluggish here too...

[Framiga]

Hi patrik

on wich Amiga, have you installed the CV64?

There is a jumper for SB rev9 compatibility that enables the "slow Zorro mode".

Have you the CV64 user manual?

Ciao

-edit- it is JP1 and with SB11 must be OPEN

Have your CV64 2 or 4 MB of VRAM?

[patrik]

@Framiga:

The CV64 is equipped with 4MB VRAM and is installed in an A4000 with Super Buster rev. 11.

I bought the CV64 secondhand and did not get a user manual with it. You dont happen to know if it is possible to get hold of it somewhere?

As there are no jumper-markings on the CV64-board I dont know what the current jumper-settings are. I guess the user-manual give names to the jumpers..?


/Patrik

[lempkee]

patrik: ATEO and pixel 64 was one of em and another was merlin with p96, but as i said i am not sure if its a user issue or a hw issue.

good luck with this and i hope its just a jumper like framiga(HI!) said.

cheers

[Framiga]

Hi patrik,

just sent to you privately.

Ciao

PS- don't try to use 1024x768@32bit WB.
Use max 1024x768@16PC.

OOps . . . you are using CGX, sorry . . anyway use a 16 bit mode for the WB.
I'm using P96 that works great with CV64.

IMPORTANT- check if (i don't remember if a tooltype or an enviroment) USE ROXXELER is set to YES

[CU_AMiGA]

My mouse pointer runs quite smoothly. The only problem i have is:

Its black and white - so it won't change colour
It rather big and blocky - clumsy

[Framiga]

Hi CU_AMIGA

have you tryed from Preference:Pointer, to load another pointer OR reset to default one?

Ciao

[patrik]

@Framiga:

Checked the jumper-settings and they were all at default. I also upgraded to latest(?) V4.3 RC5 CyberGraphX version. Unfortounately nothing is different except from the fact that ARQ gives me gurus when trying to show requesters now .

I am currently running 1280x960x8bit on a fixed sync monitor which will accept that resolution or 1280x1024, but the resolution doesnt make any difference, even if I run 640x480 on another monitor, the mouse movements just aint comparable to those with AGA-screens. Maybe I will have to live with this .

(edit):
Have tried using both the default mouse-pointer and and a simple black and white one. But with the same result. Though with the CyberGraphX update there is a new(? 99% sure I havent seen it before) ENV-variable called "NOMOUSERATIO", but the wierd thing is that when I save, it unselects itself, wierd. Guess I have to experiment with that one a bit .


/Patrik

[Framiga]

Hi Patrik,

yes but at which color deep?

Use max 1024x768@16bit.

I've added some question in the previous post.

Ciao

IMPORTANT- check if (i don't remember if a tooltype or an enviroment) USE ROXXELER is set to YES