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Old 12-20-2007, 05:51 AM   #1
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Default Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ

I am thinking of starting an unofficial AmigaOS 4 for Classics FAQ on my website.

If you have any ideas or Q&A entries you have, can you reply here so I add them to the web site.

The AmigaOS 3.9 FAQ can be found here:
http://www.gregdonner.org/os39faq/os39faq.html

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Old 12-20-2007, 06:47 AM   #2
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Q: When will it run on Mac****osh?
A: Never.
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on a serious note, you should probably put requirements first..
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Old 12-20-2007, 07:55 AM   #3
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Default Re: Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ

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I am thinking of starting an unofficial AmigaOS 4 for Classics FAQ on my website.

If you have any ideas or Q&A entries you have, can you reply here so I add them to the web site.

The AmigaOS 3.9 FAQ can be found here:
http://www.gregdonner.org/os39faq/os39faq.html

My website is:
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Great idea mate. I think both of your links are very useful 8-)



OS4 question:-

How do I get my ToolsDaemon to work in OS4?

(I've put the usual files from my OS3.9 system into S, L, Prefs and WBStartup but OS4 just hangs when I attempt to use it)





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Old 12-20-2007, 10:12 AM   #4
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Default Re: Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ

ToolsDaemon is a hack of a program and not really a WB friendly program. Have you tries ToolManager instead or Dopus Megallan?
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Old 12-20-2007, 10:37 AM   #5
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Default Re: Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't TD *ADDED* to OS4? o_O
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Old 12-20-2007, 11:52 AM   #6
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Ihave no idea what is included with AmigaOS 4 so I cannot confirm that.

Has any one got a directory listing of what is on the CD?
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Old 12-20-2007, 01:08 PM   #7
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Default Re: Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't TD *ADDED* to OS4?
I am unable to find it in my OS4 installation mate.


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Has any one got a directory listing of what is on the CD?
Here's a grab of DirectoryOpus4 (OS4 version :-D) showing the contents of the OS4 CD. No sign of ToolsDaemon anywhere in there....



Just to clarify exactly what I am looking for, this screengrab shows the 4 components of the ToolsDaemon that has worked brilliantly in OS3.9....



The original ToolsDaemon gave one extra menu called 'Utils'. By some fluke I was able to add more titles which went right across the top of the Workbench screen. Hence, I could launch many more progs and utils without even having to open up a partition.

Here is one of my 'ToolsDaemon.menu' files:-

TITLE Utils
ITEM DirectoryOpus
(WB) "Workopus/DirectoryOpus" []
ITEM HiFi
(WB) "Workbench3.9:Utilities/Amplifier/Amplifier" []
ITEM ADF-Blitzer
(WB) "Work:Tools/ADF-Blitzer/ADF-Blitzer" []
ITEM Wordworth4SE
(WB) "Work:Productivity/Textprocessing/Wordworth" []
ITEM PPaint
(WB) "Work:Productivity/Graphics/PPaint" []
ITEM PlayCD
(WB) "Work:IDEfix97/PlayCD/PlayCD" []
ITEM PlayCD-OS3.9
(WB) "Workbench3.9:Utilities/PlayCD" []
ITEM Super-Duper
(WB) "Work:Tools/Super/Super" []
ITEM CyberGrab
(WB) "Work:CyberGrab/CyberGrab" []
ITEM TextEngine
(WB) "Work:Tools/TextEngine/TextEngine" []
ITEM Quarterback Tools
(WB) "Work:Tools/QB_Tools/Quarterback Tools" []
ITEM VidiAmiga12
(WB) "Work:Tools/VidiAmiga12/VidiAmiga12" []
ITEM IconCopy
(WB) "Work:Tools/IconCopy/IconCopy" []
ITEM Doubler
(WB) "Work:Tools/Copy/Doubler" []
ITEM Xcopy
(WB) "Work:Tools/Copy/XcopyPro94" []
ITEM ABackup
(WB) "Work:Tools/ABackup/ABackupEnglish" []
ITEM PC Disk
(WB) "Workbench3.9:Storage/DOSDrivers/PC0" []
ITEM RAD Disk
(WB) "Workbench3.9:Storage/DOSDrivers/RAD" []
ITEM Packmaster
(WB) "Work:Packmaster" []
ITEM HDToolBox
(WB) "Work:HDToolBox" []
ITEM Workbench
(WB) "Workbench3.9:Prefs/Workbench" []
ITEM PhotoAlbum
(WB) "Work:PhotoAlbum/PhotoAlbum" []
ITEM MD51
(WB) "Workbench3.9evs/DOSDrivers/DB-store/MD51" []
ITEM WhichAmiga
(WB) "Work:WhichAmiga/WhichAmiga" []
ITEM SysInfo
(WB) "Work:sysinfo/SysInfo" []
ITEM FindDevice
(WB) "Work:IDEfix97/FindDevice" []
ITEM ProGRAB24
(WB) "Work:ProGRAB24/ProGRAB24" []
ITEM ScreenMode
(WB) "Workbench3.9:Prefs/ScreenMode" []
ITEM IoTools
(WB) "Workbench3.9:Tools/IoTools" []
ITEM Eject
(WB) "Work:IDEfix97/Eject" []
ITEM Collector
(WB) "Work:Collector3.5/Collector" []
ITEM Thumb
(WB) "Work:PicShow/Thumb" []
ITEM Changer
(WB) "Ram Disk:Changer" []
ITEM WBPattern
(WB) "Workbench3.9:Prefs/WBPattern" []
ITEM Shell
(WB) "Workbench3.9:System/Shell" []
TITLE Internet
ITEM Miami
(WB) "Work:Internet/Miami/Miami" []
ITEM YAM
(WB) "Work:Internet/E-Mail/YAM" []
ITEM Voyager
(WB) "Work:Internet/WWW/Voyager/V" []
ITEM AWeb
(WB) "Workbench3.9:Internet/AWeb3SE/AWeb-II" []
END

EDIT - ToolsDaemon.menu list shortened as it was so looooooooooong!


Thanks in advance for your help


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Old 12-20-2007, 04:01 PM   #8
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Default Re: Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ

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As the maintainer of a FAQ on OS4, I think you should buy OS4.
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Old 12-20-2007, 02:31 PM   #9
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I have ToolsDaemon working perfectly on my Amiga1 under OS4. It is Toolsdaemon version 2.1b ... I seem to recall previous versions not working properly. I have several hundred additional menu items listed in my toolsdaemon config file.... not sure why it wouldn't work with classic.

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Old 12-20-2007, 11:28 PM   #10
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Default Re: Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ

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I am thinking of starting an unofficial AmigaOS 4 for Classics FAQ on my website.

If you have any ideas or Q&A entries you have, can you reply here so I add them to the web site.

The AmigaOS 3.9 FAQ can be found here:
http://www.gregdonner.org/os39faq/os39faq.html

My website is:
http://www.pcguru.plus.com
Some useful info in this thread at aw.net as well.
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Old 12-21-2007, 02:37 AM   #11
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You can use a trick menu editor that was, IMO way nicer than the original.
Do you mean like being able to right click anywhere on the screen to get a menu? You can do this in OS4 but with ToolsDaemon installed as well you have access to all those menus too.


@ AMC258

Thanks mate, but that link goes to 'ToolsDaemon21a.lha'. Hope you get your OS4 soon if you haven't already got it.


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Old 12-21-2007, 07:04 AM   #12
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apply this patch

http://aminet.net/util/boot/ToolsDaemon22.lha

to the 2.1a and it should work
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Old 12-21-2007, 08:20 AM   #13
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apply this patch

http://aminet.net/util/boot/ToolsDaemon22.lha

to the 2.1a and it should work
That has fixed it thank you very much Famiga

I did think about doing that this morning, but then I thought "Naaaa!"

Cheers for the nudge
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You can use a trick menu editor that was, IMO way nicer than the original.
Do you mean like being able to right click anywhere on the screen to get a menu? You can do this in OS4 but with ToolsDaemon installed as well you have access to all those menus too.


No, it was a new Prefs prog for TD that was *WAY* easier and more efficient to use, than the original. I remember it had a bug or something, though. It only worked with the 2.1b version, but after 3.9 ToolsDaemon was no longer a hack. The changes H&P did made it useable as an actual commodity, if I remember correctly.

I don't remember, to be honest. My Amithlon drive was scavenged, 'cos I lost my Windoze boot drive.
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Old 12-30-2007, 03:35 AM   #15
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is it possible to run both amiga os3.9 and os4 from the same hard drive on an amiga 1200 system? I already have os3.9 set up on a 1200 with a blizzard ppc. I received the os4 cd this week, and was thinking to install it on the first partition, but I wanted to backup the os3.9 boot partition onto one of the other partitions.

After installing os4, if I power on the computer, it should reboot, reboot and go into os4. but if I access the early startup menu and select the partition with os3.9, that should work alternately, right?
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