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[alex]

Get your flame throwers ready, but I'm thinking that I realize that Hyperion has it's reasons for delaying AOS4, but in the process of the delay, Amiga, Inc is going under from the lack of much needed funds and Eyetech can't just sit on hardware forever without cash.

I would think that is Aos 4 were out even in a Mac OS X style when they did their first 1.0 release with some acceptable shortcomings but followed by a free update, this would at least get needed revenue into the hands of all involved.

Right now they are in the catch-22 death sipral. No money so development is delayed and resources are diverted to income projects, but the delay is killing the future cash from sales.

At the end of the day, it looks like Amiga, Inc. will be dead and Eyetech will be sitting on overpriced hardware unable to buy new hardware components at todays prices because they can't get rid of what they have or afford to buy new.

Add to that MOS/Pegasos is nipping at their heals and the ONLY reason I haven't just gone for their solution is because I can't get my hands on them.

This should be a lesson the the MOS crew, take advantage of the situation now as you might not have the chance later.

[seer]

And what would Hyperion gain from this ? An OS with no hardware platform ?

[amigamad]

@alex

dont be daft releasing incomplete software that is unstable would kill the amiga although how do you kill something that has been dead for a while. :-? :-o

[amigamad]

Maybe it would have been faster to program if they had had hartge and partners source code to os 3.9? :-? :-D

[Hardboy]

If you ask me, then they have put to many new things to OS4.0. Looking at the feature list clearly shows that many new features have come.

Instead, they should only have converted existing code to PPC and released, but thats not the way things go...

Hopefully, OS4.0 will soon be out - allthough not for my BPPC

[Karlos]

Is Hyperion really killing Amiga?



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I seriously doubt that any harm that may be caused by the delay would be intentional.

Way to spread XXX :-)

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XXX? What happened to Fear Uncertianty and Doubt? :-)

[FAC]

Well I will not get my flame thrower ready because you have quite a point here. Everybody needs funds and those can't be made before OS 4.0 hits the stores.

BUT there is no point in sending out a half finished OS either. Imagine what buyers (hopefully also outside the community) will think when they see a OS with a lot of errors and problems. That will not give any funds either.

So you're got a point, but I would say it's a no win situation.

[alx]

Hyperion killing Amiga? IMO it's the opposite - while A inc and others have certainly not helped, Hyperion seem to have been steadily developing away on the new OS. Fast? Certainly not - but I cannot see how they could speed it up (to get more developers, they'd have to have people doing other things like porting games).

A half-baked AmigaOS would be terrible. For one thing, it would immidiately convince many people to go over to other solutions. And can you imagine the headlines on OSNews etc? "After ten years the new Amiga is out. And it sucks". Since it's taken them so long, it's far better to wait a little more and have a brilliant OS.

Anyway, I cannot see what they could do to cut corners. AFAIK the main work now is to port the modules to PPC and bug check. If they aren't ported then it'll be slow. If they are buggy, then it'll be slow and unreliable - not something that AmigaOS is known for.

[JoannaK]

As Idea goes.. Not a new one..

I thought this some time ago but IMHO it's not woth of hassle to Hyperion because it would result too much uncertanity. Ainc is total loss but killing it for good would cause them more problems than keeping them 'alive' as a facade..

And for being late.. Well... It's way too easy to underestimate work required, especially if you have not done simnilar things before. And they have not, but they have learned a lot since last summer.. We'll see when they are ready to deliver.

(edit.. some typos fixed.. and new added) :-D

[KennyR]

Hyperion aren't delaying OS4, IMO. They just totally underestimated the task that it would be, and totally underestimated the problems in coding in 68k and recompiling for PPC. "Just change some flags and recompile." It didn't ever work that way. Ever.

[HyperionMP]

The reason why OS 4 has taken so long has nothing to do with moving 68K to PPC.

The fact that you can simpy recompile 68K code for PPC still stands.

The fact of the matter is that our design and especially the emulation concept is by far superior to other solutions currently available on the market which use some kind of sandbox approach.

In fact, quite a few MorphOS adepts went on record to state that it couldn't even be done.

Well, it has been done although it has taken us far longer that we would have liked.

During the OS 4 development period, Hyperion has only needed to generate sufficient revenue from other projects to keep development going.

In fact, we ported 2 Mac titles, 1 Amiga title and did the firmware for the AmigaOne hardware.

We have also been confronted with companies defaulting on their contractually agreed payments and royalties to us which have further added to the problem.

Still, if you consider how long MorphOS has been in development, we're still doing very well.

[Edit-Chick]

And in the words of David Essex....

[size=xx-large]Rock On[/size]

Hyperion !!

:-D

[Targhan]

@EditChick

What anime series or game did you get your avatar from? :-)

[artman]

Ohhhh Gawd! There's that avatar again!!! Rock Awwnnnnn!

[ikir]

Is this a flame party?