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Old 01-16-2007, 08:07 AM   #1
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Default Picasso and custom screen modes

Hello.

Does anyone know if it is possible to make a custom screen mode with a picasso in order to display a high resolution on an LCD panel?

E.G. 1280 x 1024 @ 60Hz - 24bit

Very best,

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Old 01-16-2007, 08:44 AM   #2
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Default Re: Picasso and custom screen modes

I tried doing this on my PIV, with no (easy) results. While I was researching this, I became satisfied (I can cite if you give me time to dig up my notes) that 1280x1024 simply was not possible at 24-bit without interlacing due to the graphics chip itself. The P96 mode editor seems fully aware of this fact. P96 Mode will not allow resolutions above 1152x900 without interlacing.

I can run 1152x900 in 24-bit NI, but it looks a little awkward on my Dell FP2001 LCD.

Though that doesn't mean that there aren't "special" modes of the chip yet unknown or not legal.

I'd love 1280 or 1600 24-bit NI on my Amiga, but I don't think it's gonna happen until I go PCI :-)
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Old 01-16-2007, 10:52 AM   #3
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Default Re: Picasso and custom screen modes

Out of curiosity, what would happen if you forcibly set the flicker fixer on via the jumper on the board?

Perhaps my understanding of how the flicker fixer works is wrong.

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Old 01-16-2007, 11:52 AM   #4
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Default Re: Picasso and custom screen modes

The FF/SD only works with the video coming from the Amiga custom chips, not the SVGA output.
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Old 01-17-2007, 12:52 AM   #5
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Default Re: Picasso and custom screen modes

Friend has used 1280x1024 on PicassoIV.. and 1600x1200 interlaced modes. But there might not be enough memory on PicassoIV to get 24bit modes or even 16bit.
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Old 01-24-2007, 12:40 AM   #6
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Default Re: Picasso and custom screen modes

Eureka!

I played with the P96 mode editor tonight and managed to coax 1280x1024x24 non-interlaced out of my Picasso IV. I AM A HAPPY CAMPER!

The settings in Picasso96Mode:

1280x1024 $50061000
(Does the DisplayIDBase change with multiple cards?)

Depth: TrueColor
Clock: 83.05MHz
Interlace: No
Doublescan: No

FrameSize: 1632h 1076v
BorderSize: 24h 0v
Position: 40h 32v
SyncSize: 96h 12v
SyncPolarity: -h -v (didn't see much diff here, but negative sync makes me feel cool. YMMV)
Frequency: 51kHz 47Hz

As you can see, the vertical rate is NOT 60Hz, but this mode works wonderfully on the Dell 2001FP (20.1" LCD). Sure enough, the monitor recognizes the mode as 1280x1024@47Hz.

FWIW, I believe this monitor will also synch to standard Amiga video through the SVGA port, owing to its ability to handle SVHS and composite video signals. I have vague recollection of this happening by accident, but cannot confirm immediately as I do not have the necessary connections on-hand. (It's in a box somewhere in the garage.)

Couple of notes on this mode:

:inquisitive: I see occasional screen corruption (miscolored pixels here and there) in this mode, using FBlit and PowerIcons

:-) Directory Opus 4.17pre20 looks pretty damn good

:-( Some Workbench screen and window operations are noticeably slower, though not as lagging as say Windows with a bad video driver

:roll: Should use native 1280x1024 backdrops for best speed and effect

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Old 01-24-2007, 04:01 AM   #7
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Default Re: Picasso and custom screen modes

@Tahoe

Not here it won't (go down to native amiga mode via SVGA). I have to hook up via the composite/s-video ports, or via a gfx card. maybe you had a 31KHz + screen mode selected? Its not specitic to my 2001, either... I have three of them.

But thanks for the 1280 screen mode tip. I usually just use the auto-size option on the 2001. Lose some screen estate, but who cares.
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Old 01-24-2007, 07:44 AM   #8
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Default Re: Picasso and custom screen modes

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As you can see, the vertical rate is NOT 60Hz, but this mode works wonderfully on the Dell 2001FP (20.1" LCD). Sure enough, the monitor recognizes the mode as 1280x1024@47Hz.
As with Overclock tooltype you can squeeze extra 10 MHz from that Cirrus chip, you may get a little over 50 Hz mode if required.
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Old 01-24-2007, 07:58 AM   #9
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Default Re: Picasso and custom screen modes

better to setup a 16 bit mode instead. 4MB of videoram are not enough for that resolution.

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better to setup a 16 bit mode instead. 4MB of videoram are not enough for that resolution.
Unless my math is wrong, 1280x1024x24 comes out to about 3.8MB. So this *should* work fine. I bet, however, that memory is not available for an overlay.
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