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sYsLoCk 08-18-2012 04:41 AM

SysLock update
 
New update available with important changes:

SysLockv4.0c :cool:

Please, read the new readme file carefully! :rtfm:

sYsLoCk 08-19-2012 02:19 AM

Re: SysLock update
 
Hmm... why isn't this thread showing up on the home-page or New Posts? :confused:

Edit:
Never mind... it's showing up on the New Posts page now.

jsixis 09-27-2012 10:55 PM

Re: SysLock update
 
looks like a nice program, if I ever get my Amigas working properly I will check it out
Thanks

Thomas 09-28-2012 04:56 AM

Re: SysLock update
 
Without harddrive encryption such a program is not of much use. It only defeats dumb users.

Surely, with Kick 1.3 and bootpri=127 it is rather difficult to access the drive's data but with physical access to the machine and the right skills it can be done quickly.

Either
- connect the harddrive to a Linux machine and use a hex editor to change bootpri or
- connect the harddrive to a Kick 2.0 machine and use the early startup menu to boot from another disk or
- connect a second harddrive to the controller which also has a partition with bootpri=127 but no protection or
- disable the hdd controller and manually mount the partitions loading the driver from floppy disk (especially in the Kick 1.3 era many hdd controllers offered this option for compatibility with kick 1.2).

sYsLoCk 09-28-2012 08:09 AM

Re: SysLock update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jsixis (Post 709636)
looks like a nice program, if I ever get my Amigas working properly I will check it out
Thanks

Thanks for you comment!

sYsLoCk 09-28-2012 08:38 AM

Re: SysLock update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas (Post 709658)
Without harddrive encryption such a program is not of much use. It only defeats dumb users.

That's not a smart remark to make. That's in fact an insult for people who are using this program. It doesn't have to defeat "dumb" users. It's a protection against "dumb" housemates/friends/wife/children. The user is the one that knows the password after all...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas (Post 709658)
Surely, with Kick 1.3 and bootpri=127 it is rather difficult to access the drive's data but with physical access to the machine and the right skills it can be done quickly.

Either
- connect the harddrive to a Linux machine and use a hex editor to change bootpri or
- connect the harddrive to a Kick 2.0 machine and use the early startup menu to boot from another disk or
- connect a second harddrive to the controller which also has a partition with bootpri=127 but no protection or
- disable the hdd controller and manually mount the partitions loading the driver from floppy disk (especially in the Kick 1.3 era many hdd controllers offered this option for compatibility with kick 1.2).

Yes, I'm fully aware that if you open up your Amiga and change things in there, you'd be able to bypass SysLock and get to the content of the harddrive. Everything is crackable. Even the biggest safe! ;)
But the point is that this program is for Amiga users that want to keep other people away from the contents of their HD. The average housemates/friends/wife/children doesn't have a clue on how to access your HD with SysLock installed. They don't go wrecking your precious Amiga to change/replace HD's or floppy drives.
All I made was a decent system/HD locker for the Amiga community because the AmigaOS lacks a built in one, like PC's have. Compared to other simular (Amiga) lockers, this is the best available:

* Disables the CLI-window in the Boot-Menu (so, no access from there).
* Nice GUI interface & fonts.
* Built-in screenblanker.
* Sound samples.
* Installer.

If you think you can make a better one, then go ahead. I'm very curious.

danbeaver 09-28-2012 09:31 AM

Re: SysLock update
 
Syslock,

What is your opinion of PGP's combined hardware (USB dongle) and software encryption of the hardware?

sYsLoCk 09-28-2012 10:58 AM

Re: SysLock update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danbeaver (Post 709687)
Syslock,

What is your opinion of PGP's combined hardware (USB dongle) and software encryption of the hardware?

I've not (yet) had the time to test one of those PGP projects. It's on my To-Do list.

AmiDude 09-29-2012 02:18 AM

Re: SysLock update
 
@ Syslock

I've installed your program on my A1200. I think you did a great job! Well done!
Never mind Thomas, he's just being jealous. He's not capable to develop a program like yours. He makes only worthless commands and stupid useless little WB apps.

sYsLoCk 10-01-2012 04:49 AM

Re: SysLock update
 
@ AmiDude

I see what you mean. ;) Anyway, thanks for using SysLock!

cgutjahr 10-01-2012 06:44 AM

Re: SysLock update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sYsLoCk (Post 709681)
The average housemates/friends/wife/children

Maybe you should state it like that in the readme, because the current description makes it sound like it's the definite answer to all security problems ("protect your harddisk from any unauthorized persons" ... "offers the best protection").

Quote:

* Disables the CLI-window in the Boot-Menu (so, no access from there).
So it patches Kickstart? That requires one "insecure" boot, so it's basically just eyecandy - everybody who knows how to access the boot menu also knows how to cold start.

sYsLoCk 10-01-2012 06:56 AM

Re: SysLock update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cgutjahr (Post 709983)
Maybe you should state it like that in the readme, because the current description makes it sound like it's the definite answer to all security problems ("protect your harddisk from any unauthorized persons" ... "offers the best protection").


So it patches Kickstart? That requires one "insecure" boot, so it's basically just eyecandy - everybody who knows how to access the boot menu also knows how to cold start.

Yes, it offers best potection against average housemates, friends, wife or children. Especially compared to other simular Amiga programs. I clearly stated that last in the read.me file. But I'll change some lines in the read.me file when I upload a future update. Most people don't know anything about AmigaOS; Boot-Menu? They don't have a clue what's that about. And no, it doesn't patches Kickstart. Even with a cold boot, you can't access the CLI window in the Boot-Menu after installing SysLock (except KS2.0). Have you actually tried the program? I'm open to any suggestions.


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