Scuttlebutt from inside the Whitehouse

[FluffyMcDeath]

Real or not, I don't know but it fits with my prejudices :-D

It seems that Dumbya really is an idiot, as if his performance at that last press conference wasn't enough to give it away:

Q. Are there any mistakes you feel that you have made.
A. I wish you had submitted that question in writing so I could prepare for it.

Duh!

But it seems that he takes meds and has seizures. That explains how he keeps injuring himself falling down. That is a much more generous theory than my pet theory that every once in a while Cheney has to b!tch slap the prez to remind him who's boss.

Anyway, those who already suspect this may enjoy; those that worship Dumbya and think that he was ordained by God will get their knickers in a knot.

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a889.htm
http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a906.htm

Sometime after Dumbya has left office we'll hear an anouncement that he has a degenerative brain disease (just like with Ronnie) and some of us will be surprised and some of us won't (just like with Ronnie).

[KennyR]

What* he gets is what I call the Likud Express people, otherwise known as the Neo Cons. I am Jewish but these freaks are so far right wing they view Adolf Hitler as a Communist.

Like some people on AO I could mention. :)

[Fade]

@ FluffyMcDeath
"Real or not, I don't know but it fits with my prejudices"
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At least you can admit it Fluffy. :-o
Now if you could have a private conversation with KennyR....... :idea:

[KennyR]

Most of my prejudices of the right wing have already been proven by the Bush administration. Now they're postjudices.

[cecilia]

"I'm honored to shake the hand of a brave Iraqi citizen who had his hand cut off by Saddam Hussein,"

- President Bush, May 25th

:roflmao:

[Wilse]

Did anyone listen to el-chimperoonie's speech the other night?

It was a collection of twisted facts, outright lies,
mis-pronunciations and waffle.

[Fade]

@ Cecilia
""I'm honored to shake the hand of a brave Iraqi citizen who had his hand cut off by Saddam Hussein,"
- President Bush, May 25th" :roflmao:
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Way to take his comment out of context Cecilia.

The US brings a whole group of people that have had their right hands cut off to the states to get artificial limbs, and when they want to thank the President and shake his hand with their new artificial ones, you want to make fun of Bush for saying he would be honored.

So much for that "liberal compassion" that you're always eager to tell everyone you have.

[Fade]

Wilse wondered
"Did anyone listen to el-chimperoonie's speech the other night?"
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No, I turned the volume down and just watched.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040526/capt.sge.tvo73.260504204121.photo00.default-266x384.jpg

[that_punk_guy]

Wilse wrote:
Did anyone listen to el-chimperoonie's speech the other night?

It was a collection of twisted facts, outright lies,
mis-pronunciations and waffle.

I thought it was a repeat, so I switched over... ;-)

[Wilse]

@Fade:

Interesting that you should bring up Gore's speech.

Have you read it or listened to it?
Compared to your Fuhrer's, it was work of art.

Why don't you go and read them both, compare them and report
back?

[Fade]

After 8 long years of his dribble, I wouldn't dare listen to him again.

Algore scares me! The horror, the horror!

[KennyR]

You should be grateful Fade, Gore is the Republican's biggest asset. :-P

(And I actually thought the pic was Ashcroft)

[cecilia]

Fade wrote:
@ Cecilia
""I'm honored to shake the hand of a brave Iraqi citizen who had his hand cut off by Saddam Hussein,"
- President Bush, May 25th" :roflmao:
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Way to take his comment out of context Cecilia.

The US brings a whole group of people that have had their right hands cut off to the states to get artificial limbs, and when they want to thank the President and shake his hand with their new artificial ones, you want to make fun of Bush for saying he would be honored.

So much for that "liberal compassion" that you're always eager to tell everyone you have.no, i'm making fun of his continuing and unrelenting inability to form a proper sentence connected to an actual concept.
---
Moral indignation is jealousy with a halo.
H. G. Wells

[Wilse]

@Fade:

I wouldn't dare listen to him again.

Of course you wouldn't, because if you did, you might be getting dangerously close to an informed opinion and that wouldn't do now, would it.......?

[Fade]

@ Wilse
"Of course you wouldn't, because if you did, you might be getting dangerously close to an informed opinion and that wouldn't do now, would it.......?"
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In the US No one thinks Al Gore has an informed opinion; not even the Democrats!

It is only those in the EU, who are so easily fooled by shysters, that his opinion carries any weight at all.

Want to buy some siding wilse? :insane:

[cecilia]

Dumber than average George W. Bush quotes:

"I think we agree, the past is over." -- May 10th, 2000

"It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it." -- May 5th, 2000

"I understand small business growth. I was one." -- February 19th, 2000

"Will the highways on the internet become more few? -- January 29th, 2000

"I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." -- January 27th, 2000



:roflmao:

[Wilse]

@Fade:

I never said Gore had an informed opinion.

I was merely pointing out that by refusing to listen to all sides of the argument *you* don't have an informed opinion.

You have a pre-conceived opinion, based on his past.

Why do you think I listen Bush's speeches?

(Hint: It isn't because I like what he has to say.)

[Wilse]

@Fade:

Missed this earlier:
It is only those in the EU, who are so easily fooled by shysters

Easily fooled by shysters?

Ahem...WMD stockpiles? 9/11-Iraq links? Want me to go on?

[FluffyMcDeath]

Fade wrote:

In the US No one thinks Al Gore has an informed opinion; not even the Democrats!


False statement.

(Unless, of course, you define all those that think Al Gore has an informed opinion as a nobody, and you probably do, but that's a whole different fallacy.

It is only those in the EU, who are so easily fooled by shysters, that his opinion carries any weight at all.


The Republicans know thast suckers are most strongly attracted to those that will tell them they are not a bunch of suckers. After that, and provided they don't challenge the suckers with information, the ignorant masses will be their sycophantic "useful idiots" without question.

A lot of people who were suckers are starting to wake up and see what's going on. Only the uber suckers still cling to Dumbya, a man who doesn't read and only listens to Cheney and Rove. How can any opinion that man have be considered informed when he has so few conduits of infoprmation and they are all heavily biased in the same direction.

Sorry Fade, but you have fallen for the shysters and the more obvious that becomes the more you will deny it because it would offend you so much to realize that it is the truth.

[cecilia]

Mr. President, What Planet Are You On? (http://www.independent.org/tii/news/040524Eland.html#top)

"In "Spin City", the nation's capital, presidential administrations often believe their own propaganda. The Bush administration, however, has been especially self-delusional particularly when it comes to the invasion and occupation of Iraq. Not since the Johnson and Nixon administrations during the Vietnam War and Watergate has an administration been in such denial about its policy course. Like a naïve fawn caught in the headlights, the Bush crowd seems paralyzed and condemned to the oncoming crash."

"Yet instead of taking advantage of the Iraqi prisoner scandal to show the door to Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, the incompetent architect of the administration's Iraq policy the president went out of his way to show support for his embattled security chieftain. The only strategy that the administration seems to have is to churn out more propaganda about how well things are going. Just last week, the president continued to indulge in the fantasy of a democratic Iraq leading to a democratic Middle East: An Iraqi democracy is emerging? In time, Iraq will be a free and democratic nation at the heart of the Middle East. This will send a message a powerful message from Damascus to Tehran: that democracy can bring hope to lives in every culture. Unfortunately, the message sent to Syria, Iran, and other "rogue" states by the failed U.S. occupation of Iraq, is that they could be successful fighting a guerilla war against the United States."

[Fade]

@ Wilse
"Easily fooled by shysters?"
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Out of your own mouth Wilse. If the folks in the UK weren't so easily fooled, Tony Blair wouldn't have become PM, and if they weren't so easily fooled he would surely be gone by now.

Ever think you might be the one out of step? Either they are easily fooled or you are. You can't have it both ways.



@ FluffyMcDeath
"False statement."
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No it's not. If the Democrats valued Al Gore's opinion, he would be the Democratic nominee instead of old what's his face.

[Glaucus]

Unfortunately, the message sent to Syria, Iran, and other "rogue" states by the failed U.S. occupation of Iraq, is that they could be successful fighting a guerilla war against the United States."Unfortunately that's the truth. It would have been better if the US had not gone into Iraq and allowed the Islamists to cast doubts on their own militant plans against the US and other Western nations. Now the US has proven that small bands of poorly trained and poorly equiped fanaticals can take on a world super power head on - and hold their own. Thanks America, that's exactly what this world needed to see!!! :roll:

- Mike

[Glaucus]

No it's not. If anyone in the US valued Al Gore's opinion, he would be the Democratic nominee instead of old what's his face.Yet another well informed and thoughtful statement by Fade... :roll: Considering over 50% of your country's population voted (note, I'm referring to the popular vote which he certainly owned) for him last election, I don't see how even you could believe what you are saying.

- Mike

[T_Bone]

Glaucus wrote:
No it's not. If anyone in the US valued Al Gore's opinion, he would be the Democratic nominee instead of old what's his face.Yet another well informed and thoughtful statement by Fade... :roll: Considering over 50% of your country's population voted (note, I'm referring to the popular vote which he certainly owned) for him last election, I don't see how even you could believe what you are saying.

- Mike

48.38%

[Fade]

Boy you sure were fast on grabbing that quote Glaucus. In fact so fast, that you didn't notice that I edited my statement from "If anyone in the US valued" to "If the Democrats valued" The part I don't understand is, I edited my comment about 5 minutes after I made the original post, but your reply came 25 minutes later. Hmmm...... I wonder if the time keeping on A.Org is not very accurate.

[Glaucus]

Fade wrote:
Boy you sure were fast on grabbing that quote Glaucus. In fact so fast, that you didn't notice that I edited my statement from "If anyone in the US valued" to "If the Democrats valued" The part I don't understand is, I edited my comment about 5 minutes after I made the original post, but your reply came 25 minutes later. Hmmm...... I wonder if the time keeping on A.Org is not very accurate.Or maybe your own time keeping isn't very accurate! ;-) It's also possible that I quoted your post before you edited it, and hit the "Submit" button several minutes after you submitted your edits! Remember, submitting a post isn't an atomic operation and many things can happen by the time a user hits Submit. Heck, I've had threads get locked on me by the time I submit (and let me tell, boy do I hate it when THAT happens :-D ).

- Mike

[Glaucus]

T_Bone wrote:
48.38%Ah, for this argument, close enough! :-D

- Mike

[FluffyMcDeath]

@ FluffyMcDeath
"False statement."
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No it's not. If the Democrats valued Al Gore's opinion, he would be the Democratic nominee instead of old what's his face.

You said that in the US noone thinks Gore has an informed opinion. If anyone does, the satetment is false. Simple logic.

Oh, and just for fun, here's a quote from Newt ( granted, it's kind of old now).

"In all fairness, it’s something Gore had worked on a long time. Gore is not the Father of the Internet, but in all fairness Gore is the person who, in the Congress, most systematically worked to make sure that we got to an Internet, and the truth is -- and I worked with him starting in 1978 when I got there, we were both part of a 'futures group' -- the fact is, in the Clinton administration the world we had talked about in the ’80s began to actually happen. You can see it in your own life, between the Internet, the computer, the cell phone." --Newt Gingrich

[Wilse]

@Fade:

You are absolutely right; out of my own mouth, the majority of the
people in my country are almost as ignorant as the majority in yours
appear to be.

Happy?

You see, you keep falling into this trap that I am somehow blindly
patriotic - I'm completely ashamed of my country's behaviour.

The only thing in our favour is that Labour have made a good fist of
things apart from conducting torture and baby-murder. Your lot have
bolloxed your country right up *and* killed innocent people at a rate
Saddam could only have dreamed of.

You can fool some of the people all of the time and you're one of
them. ;-)
-EDIT-

Just like the majority of Germans in the thirties.
Look at the first quote in the "Goering said" thread - it sums you up
completely.

[FluffyMcDeath]

Wilse wrote:
@Fade:

You can fool some of the people all of the time and you're one of
them. ;-)


"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on."
--- President George W. Bush, speaking at a Gridiron Club dinner, Washington, D.C., March 2001

[Wilse]

@Fluffy:

Yeah, there's a method to his madness and that's part of it.

[Fade]

@ Wilse
"You are absolutely right; out of my own mouth, the majority of the people in my country are almost as ignorant as the majority in yours appear to be."

"Happy?"
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Wilse, at first I thought you were only being pessimistic in your evaluation of mid-east events, and then after a while I thought, no, he is just the product of a very liberal education. Either that or he may be a little paranoid.

But then after your constant belittling of just about every religion, every country, every leader, and everyone else's opinion, I once again changed my mind and thought, he has visions of grandeur about the things he says and writes.

But after reading more of your statements like the one above, I have finally hit on it.

Wilse, thy name be Narcissus. You have fallen in love with your own opinion!

There should be a name to describe this type of affliction, but I couldn't come up with it. So for the time being, I will borrow part of one of your favorite words, and call it Monkeyopinion. :smack:

[Wilse]

@Fade:

Fallen in love with my own opinion, eh?

:lol:

you're probably right.

How did you get on with the 'made up numbers' by the way?

Figured out how to work google/face the truth yet? ;-)


Teehee - anyways, I'm off out to score some records;
I'm DJing on a boat tonight. Hope the weather stays nice.

See you kooky kids later. :-)

[KennyR]

@Fade

:lol: All education is liberal*! Why do you think most liberals are educated people? Conservatism is based on ignorance and ignorance is destroyed by education.

(* Apart from military education. But I wouldn't really count that as real education.)