View Full Version : Political correctness has gone too far!
whabang
03-26-2004, 12:41 AM
Negro balls (http://www.thestar.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=129&fArticleId=200438) (Sorry for the age of that link, but I couldn't find any other article about this in English)
This is insane! Those pastries has had that name since forever, it's traditional.
BTW, in Sweden it would be illegal to call it chocolate balls, as there is not enough chocolate in them! :-D
There was another case like this a few years ago: A restaurant sold a certain soup called Zigenarsoppa, "Gypsy soup". It's gone too far! :-x
Speelgoedmannetje
03-26-2004, 02:51 AM
hum, this is a different political correctness than I had in mind.
Wolfe
03-26-2004, 04:56 AM
Political correctness is an assault on free speech and independent thought. :griping:
We have something called 'negerzoen' (negrokiss) in NL. Sounds like it's kinda the same type of sweet snack. I can't recall anyone ever making a fuss about that name though...
cecilia
03-26-2004, 05:59 AM
Wolfe wrote:
Political correctness is an assault on free speech and independent thought. :griping: exactly!
plus, it allows people to lie.
I have been told (many years ago before PC was as insideous as it is now) "I don't hire females".
as of right now, people are afraid to actually SAY that, but they still THINK it. I've been to places that hired my (Male) colleagues but didn't hire me. and, as i was leaving the building, I was told - in "confidence" - by the one female person there that "this is a boy's club".
I'm smart enough to see it when people lie.
but I'd rather that people just come out and admit how they feel. I don't want to work with people who don't appreciate me. just be honest.
i have lived through alot of these sorts of examples so don't assume i don't know exactly how stupid and useless this PC nonsense is. this one little example may not seem like anything, but a lifetime of these things do add up.
whabang
03-26-2004, 06:18 AM
Wolfe wrote:
Political correctness is an assault on free speech and independent thought. :griping:
Indeed it is! And I'm tired of it! :pissed:
Speelgoedmannetje
03-26-2004, 07:02 AM
Let the miscommunication commence..
KennyR
03-26-2004, 07:08 AM
You guys don't really want to go back to the colonialist day way of speaking, do you?
You'll never get people to stop hating each other, but you sure as hell can make sure that the hate is firmly kept out of education, TV, music and popular culture. That's where PC comes in.
Political correctness is like democracy. It may be a total pain the arse at times, but the alternative is a LOT worse.
Speelgoedmannetje
03-26-2004, 07:42 AM
Thank you, KennyR, you stated exactly what I thought.
Get rid of PC and ppl think it's okay to discriminate one another.
whabang
03-26-2004, 07:44 AM
:-(
KennyR wrote:
You guys don't really want to go back to the colonialist day way of speaking, do you?
You'll never get people to stop hating each other, but you sure as hell can make sure that the hate is firmly kept out of education, TV, music and popular culture. That's where PC comes in.
Political correctness is like democracy. It may be a total pain the arse at times, but the alternative is a LOT worse.
Of course, but renaming traditional pastries is a little too much.
On a few occations things has been taken so far that I was called a racist for singing the national anthemn, or for having a swedish flag on the wall at home. I'm fed up with it.
Speelgoedmannetje
03-26-2004, 08:12 AM
whabang wrote:
Of course, but renaming traditional pastries is a little too much.
On a few occations things has been taken so far that I was called a racist for singing the national anthemn, or for having a swedish flag on the wall at home. I'm fed up with it.It's the way you do it. (look, for instance in Ireland, the Orange march). but just having a national flag and singing the national anthem isn't political incorrect :lol:
And renaming traditional pastries because they're political incorrect? That's complete bullocks, since these pastries do not have discriminating intentions in the first place.
PC'ness is/should be all about intentions.
Wolfe
03-26-2004, 11:53 AM
Well, PC is crap. I would rather know up front how someone feels about something than be told what they think I want to hear as not to be offended. How do you really get to know someone if they constantly feed you crap.
I am who I am. I don't mean to offend anyone but, I speak as I think. If I don't like someone or something you will know it. I will not tap dance around it so you won't be offended. There for you know up front how I am going to react over the period of a relationship however long or brief.
I try not to tread on others. I Try to treat them in a way I would like to be treated. But I am still me.
cecilia
03-26-2004, 08:36 PM
Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Thank you, KennyR, you stated exactly what I thought.
Get rid of PC and ppl think it's okay to discriminate one another. you don't GET it, sweetie! these people STILL DISCRIMINATE, they just don't SAY so!!!!
does not my entire career experience mean anything??????
the problem with PC crap is that you can not change people. you will NEVER change people. those stupid feminists who have de-balled america are only interested in being the collective Mommy. scolding everyone for having bad thoughts and bad words.
it doesn't work.
those guys who don't respect my talents and abilities will NEVER respect me no matter what happens.
And I don't care. I don't want to work for such losers.
you know what sometimes happens to places that would rather hire a drunk GUY than me? they go out of business. really. it's happened. I don't have to do anything against them. they shot their own foot.
the worse thing I can do to anyone is deny them my talent, my abilities, my strong work ethic, my intelligence. When people appreciate me and re-hire me, they get awards.
when they don't, well, it's not a pretty sight. :lol:
my point is, them lying does no one any good. it doesn't do "society" any good. I can tell they are lying, but people who are young and new at this may not catch these things in time.
the feminists have some dumb notion that if you force someone to say "nice" words that this will change their behavior. that somehow it will magically change their brains. wrong. totally wrong. and I have the life experiance to prove it.
Karlos
03-26-2004, 09:49 PM
KennyR wrote:
You guys don't really want to go back to the colonialist day way of speaking, do you?
You'll never get people to stop hating each other, but you sure as hell can make sure that the hate is firmly kept out of education, TV, music and popular culture. That's where PC comes in.
Political correctness is like democracy. It may be a total pain the arse at times, but the alternative is a LOT worse.
I only agree to a point. The original intention seems fair enough, but it's simply snowballed to the point where its simply a pain in the arse *all* of the time for the vast majority of people. It gotten into every nook and cranny, dictating terms about what is acceptible and what isn't. And the final irony is that political correctness is often misused to sugar coat views that are anything but politically correct.
Even the name is a misnomer....I mean, when was the last time a politician was ever correct about anything? ;-) :lol:
Speelgoedmannetje
03-27-2004, 08:35 AM
@Cecilia
I agree with your point partially.
But my point is, well, for example, take the difference of approach of the former DDR and the BDR (for those who are badly educated: east and west Germany during the cold war, DDR for east (commie) germany and BDR for west (non-commie) Germany)
In the DDR, Nazism was ignored and banned as it has never existed. In the BDR ppl were educated why it was actually wrong. Political correctness needs to be explained.
Of course, there still will be 'baddies', but I think, less,
I see a very bad thing happening in my country, where nowadays political correctness is often being condemned (Due to the overuse/abuse during the 80's here). And minorities, like refugees, are paying badly for that.
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