What's going down in Africa.

[FluffyMcDeath]

Two related(?) stories are:

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/03/09/1078594359852.html

and

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=4528046

So, is another little oil producing nation about to take a tumble?

(Oh, and South Afica knows something about this.)

http://allafrica.com/stories/200403100558.html

Interesting world.

[Glaucus]

Oh, I'm sure it's nothing, just a coincidence! ;-)

- Mike

[FluffyMcDeath]

I'm gonna post this in two threads,

Looks to me like Spain's payoff for backing the US is all starting to go terribly wrong.

http://www.newzimbabwe.com/pages/plane12.1527.html

And I'm not really thinking the train bombings are a coincidence.

[Tigger]

FluffyMcDeath wrote:
I'm gonna post this in two threads,

Looks to me like Spain's payoff for backing the US is all starting to go terribly wrong.

http://www.newzimbabwe.com/pages/plane12.1527.html

And I'm not really thinking the train bombings are a coincidence.

The bombing in Madrid has nothing to do with Zimbabwe, or EG. Why you've decided to not connect them, and then connected the mercenaries to the US, is conspiracy theory gone very very awry.
-Tig

[FluffyMcDeath]

Tigger wrote:

FluffyMcDeath wrote:
I'm gonna post this in two threads,

Looks to me like Spain's payoff for backing the US is all starting to go terribly wrong.

http://www.newzimbabwe.com/pages/plane12.1527.html

And I'm not really thinking the train bombings are a coincidence.

The bombing in Madrid has nothing to do with Zimbabwe, or EG. Why you've decided to not connect them, and then connected the mercenaries to the US, is conspiracy theory gone very very awry.
-Tig


Conspiracies exist. That is a fact recognized in law. I'm just conjecturing on particular possible conspiracies. To dismiss a theory simply because it contains "conspiracy" is a shallow rejection.

Spain didn't sign on with the US and UK just because it was the "right" thing to do. Every party in this saga has motives and expectations.

Spain is implicated in engineering a coup attempt (something which world powers do all the time) and the next day, bombs go off. Those kinds of coincidences I find suspicious.

[Tigger]

FluffyMcDeath wrote:

Spain is implicated in engineering a coup attempt (something which world powers do all the time) and the next day, bombs go off. Those kinds of coincidences I find suspicious.

Almost 20 bombs were set to go off almost simultaneously, that is not something someone decided to do yesterday. Its alot of manpower, alot of explosives and alot of planning. Beleiving its a reprucssion for the what happened yesterday is why its a silly conspiracy theory, this was being planned long before yesterday, it would be only slightly less crazy to say that what happened september 11 was because of a comment made by Bush on the 10th, again the planning was happening long before yesterday.
-Tig

[FluffyMcDeath]

Tigger wrote:

FluffyMcDeath wrote:

Spain is implicated in engineering a coup attempt (something which world powers do all the time) and the next day, bombs go off. Those kinds of coincidences I find suspicious.

Almost 20 bombs were set to go off almost simultaneously, that is not something someone decided to do yesterday.


Nor was the coup attempt. The bombs would have been going off around the time that a coup attempt was starting. I don't contend that someone put this show on to cover up the failed attempt, but that it would have happened during an attempted coup thus allowing the Spainish to launch an all out war on terror against ETA (which is almost surely part of what they hoped to gain US backing for, help in their own "war on terror") while not giving room on the news for Equatorial Guinea. It's a two-for-one. Spain gets a share of the oil pie, and it gets to step up its ETA crack-down. It would have been quite clever.

As it turns out, they can still persue ETA and now it distracts from the failed operation, so it's still a winner.

[FluffyMcDeath]

And more....

http://www.nationnews.com/StoryView.cfm?Record=48033&Section=Local&Current=2004%2D03%2D11%2000%3A00%3A00

[Tigger]

First of all this article is ludicrous. The plane didnt come out of Hope AFB, its not a US Air Force Plane, and the whole Spanish connection has now become even sillier. Just because the mercs on the plane spoke spanish doesnt mean they are part of a Spanish conspiracy. First of all most Spanish speaking people dont live in spain, in fact Spain is only the 4th largest country that speaks Spanish. Spanish is in fact the most common second language for Americans.
-Tig

[redrumloa]

Spanish is in fact the most common second language for Americans

In Miami and many other parts of South Florida it is the first most common.

[asian1]

Hello
There is a rumor that during human right trial against former rebels, they mention Khadafy.
All of rebels in Congo, Liberia, Sierra Leone and other countries were trained and funded by Libya.
Libya had trained various rebels in Srilanka, Philipines, Indonesia etc.
Apparently Col. Khadafy have secret ambition to unite Africa.

[FluffyMcDeath]

There's more stuff that's got me thinking now.

We have a bunch of bombs that use an explosive prefered by ETA, yet a very non-ETA like operation.

If it IS ETA, that is GOOD for Aznar.
If it is Al Qeada, that is BAD for Aznar.

Now we have the van and the tape and the claims of responsibility sugesting an Al Qeada link.

Whenever George W. Bush has talked about the bombings he always says "ETA".

If he is asked about the possibility that it is Al Qeada, he ignores the question and walks away.

Is Bush simply staying on message and repaying the loyalty of Aznar? Or does Bush KNOW that it isn't Al Qaeda?