View Full Version : I need help with this quantum physics problem!
whabang
02-17-2004, 03:40 AM
In case you didn't notice, this thread is meant to die!
mikeymike
02-17-2004, 03:54 AM
I knew that's what it was for the moment I read it on the recent postings list :)
whabang
02-17-2004, 03:55 AM
LOL!
bloodline
02-17-2004, 04:06 AM
Great! I'm actaully rather pleased you strated the tradition :-) long may it last! :pint:
First you have to find an exact solution to the schrodinger equations for the Helium atom... eh?
whabang
02-17-2004, 04:35 AM
Ok,
I have a feeling that this is one of those threads that will never die. Can one of you moderators move this to the DMZ, please? :-)
Oh, and BUMP!
bloodline
02-17-2004, 05:56 AM
whabang wrote:
Ok,
I have a feeling that this is one of those threads that will never die. Can one of you moderators move this to the DMZ, please? :-)
Oh, and BUMP!
I think you should start with the He+ ion. Since that only has one electron you can use the hydrogenic model. So you can write the hamiltonian for that.
whabang
02-17-2004, 06:00 AM
Yeah?
What if were to use carbon and deutrim, then?
Would that mean that I have no clue what you're talking about? :-D
bloodline
02-17-2004, 06:15 AM
whabang wrote:
Yeah?
What if were to use carbon and deutrim, then?
Would that mean that I have no clue what you're talking about? :-D
Deuterium is no problem since it only has one electron... with carbon you have the same problem as Helium, where electron election interactions make it imposible to work out an exact solution.
Let's stick with Dilithium, eh? ;-)
Glorix
02-17-2004, 06:18 AM
Hmmm, this subject is as elusive as unobtanium to me.
whabang
02-17-2004, 06:36 AM
bloodline wrote:
whabang wrote:
Yeah?
What if were to use carbon and deutrim, then?
Would that mean that I have no clue what you're talking about? :-D
Deuterium is no problem since it only has one electron... with carbon you have the same problem as Helium, where electron election interactions make it imposible to work out an exact solution.
Let's stick with Dilithium, eh? ;-)
Good idea!
Cyberus
02-17-2004, 06:46 AM
bloodline wrote:
whabang wrote:
Ok,
I have a feeling that this is one of those threads that will never die. Can one of you moderators move this to the DMZ, please? :-)
Oh, and BUMP!
I think you should start with the He+ ion. Since that only has one electron you can use the hydrogenic model. So you can write the hamiltonian for that.
Will we use the variational theorem, or perturbation theory? In fact, I have on old Matlab program for iterating Hydrogenic wave functions using the variational method somewhere - a relic of my university days...
Speelgoedmannetje
02-17-2004, 06:54 AM
Can you specify your question and do you have a source where all of us can read what it's actually all about?
KennyR
02-17-2004, 07:02 AM
Hmm...seems my topic idea for a thread you want to die didn't work. Let me suggest some others, that hopefully will make people pass them by without a read.
* Ow! Need help with piles!
* How to write a CV/Resumé
* Help! memalloc.h is missing on my Debian install!
* Amiga.org bugs
* Petition for DOOM 3 to be ported to Amiga!
* A600 on sale on eBay
* Another maths puzzle for you
* Who's next to get voted out of teen Big Brother?
* PPC rulez x86!
* OS4 vs. MOS
* OS4 - is it ready yet??? :D:D:D:D
etc.
whabang
02-17-2004, 07:04 AM
I will try one of those next time! :)
bloodline
02-17-2004, 07:13 AM
Cyberus wrote:
bloodline wrote:
whabang wrote:
Ok,
I have a feeling that this is one of those threads that will never die. Can one of you moderators move this to the DMZ, please? :-)
Oh, and BUMP!
I think you should start with the He+ ion. Since that only has one electron you can use the hydrogenic model. So you can write the hamiltonian for that.
Will we use the variational theorem, or perturbation theory? In fact, I have on old Matlab program for iterating Hydrogenic wave functions using the variational method somewhere - a relic of my university days...
Variational theorem, since I never learned the other one :-P
bloodline
02-17-2004, 07:15 AM
bloodline wrote:
Cyberus wrote:
bloodline wrote:
whabang wrote:
Ok,
I have a feeling that this is one of those threads that will never die. Can one of you moderators move this to the DMZ, please? :-)
Oh, and BUMP!
I think you should start with the He+ ion. Since that only has one electron you can use the hydrogenic model. So you can write the hamiltonian for that.
Will we use the variational theorem, or perturbation theory? In fact, I have on old Matlab program for iterating Hydrogenic wave functions using the variational method somewhere - a relic of my university days...
Variational theorem, since I never learned the other one :-P
Hey!!! check out the cool effect that loads of quotes has!! :-D
whabang
02-17-2004, 07:17 AM
bloodline wrote:
bloodline wrote:
Cyberus wrote:
bloodline wrote:
whabang wrote:
Ok,
I have a feeling that this is one of those threads that will never die. Can one of you moderators move this to the DMZ, please? :-)
Oh, and BUMP!
I think you should start with the He+ ion. Since that only has one electron you can use the hydrogenic model. So you can write the hamiltonian for that.
Will we use the variational theorem, or perturbation theory? In fact, I have on old Matlab program for iterating Hydrogenic wave functions using the variational method somewhere - a relic of my university days...
Variational theorem, since I never learned the other one :-P
Hey!!! check out the cool effect that loads of quotes has!! :-D
WOW!
sir_inferno
02-17-2004, 07:52 AM
KennyR wrote:
Hmm...seems my topic idea for a thread you want to die didn't work. Let me suggest some others, that hopefully will make people pass them by without a read.
* Ow! Need help with piles!
* How to write a CV/Resumé
* Help! memalloc.h is missing on my Debian install!
* Amiga.org bugs
* Petition for DOOM 3 to be ported to Amiga!
* A600 on sale on eBay
* Another maths puzzle for you
* Who's next to get voted out of teen Big Brother?
* PPC rulez x86!
* OS4 vs. MOS
* OS4 - is it ready yet??? :D:D:D:D
etc.
heh heh, the truth is i avoid ALL those threads :-) too complicated ;-)
sir_inferno
02-17-2004, 07:53 AM
sir_inferno wrote:
KennyR wrote:
Hmm...seems my topic idea for a thread you want to die didn't work. Let me suggest some others, that hopefully will make people pass them by without a read.
* Ow! Need help with piles!
* How to write a CV/Resumé
* Help! memalloc.h is missing on my Debian install!
* Amiga.org bugs
* Petition for DOOM 3 to be ported to Amiga!
* A600 on sale on eBay
* Another maths puzzle for you
* Who's next to get voted out of teen Big Brother?
* PPC rulez x86!
* OS4 vs. MOS
* OS4 - is it ready yet??? :D:D:D:D
etc.
heh heh, the truth is i avoid ALL those threads :-) too complicated ;-)
and wasn't the second one real? :-) in fact, all of them are real :-D
Cyberus
02-18-2004, 09:54 AM
sir_inferno wrote:
sir_inferno wrote:
KennyR wrote:
Hmm...seems my topic idea for a thread you want to die didn't work. Let me suggest some others, that hopefully will make people pass them by without a read.
* Ow! Need help with piles!
* How to write a CV/Resumé
* Help! memalloc.h is missing on my Debian install!
* Amiga.org bugs
* Petition for DOOM 3 to be ported to Amiga!
* A600 on sale on eBay
* Another maths puzzle for you
* Who's next to get voted out of teen Big Brother?
* PPC rulez x86!
* OS4 vs. MOS
* OS4 - is it ready yet??? :D:D:D:D
etc.
heh heh, the truth is i avoid ALL those threads :-) too complicated ;-)
and wasn't the second one real? :-) in fact, all of them are real :-D
I don't remember the 'Oww. I have methanoids hanging out of my backside' thread....
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