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SysAdmin
08-28-2010, 04:22 PM
PRESS RELEASE

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

August 28, 2010

FROM:
DiscreetFX Team & Pascal Papara

1-800-852-0930
Contact (http://www.discreetfx.com/contact.html)

Available only at www.vesalia.de

http://www.vesalia.de/pic/aresonelogo.jpg

Aladdin 4D™ & ARES Computer Partnership

For the first time get Aladdin 4D 5.x integrated at a special price when you buy an ARES One

Chicago, IL / Duisburg, Germany – August 28, 2010 – DiscreetFX, a Visual Effects powerhouse in creative software and content creation enabling products, and ARES Computer, a market leader in AROS system integration, today announces a partnership to include 3D animation / rendering / effects tools with each ARES One computer sold. Bringing hobbyist animation, rendering and particle effects creation software to new AROS computer graphics professionals.

Now enjoy the speed and native hardware support for AROS on an ARES ONE and great creative software to make you more productive using AROS. The ARES ONE also comes with other exciting software including Amiga Forever 2009 OEM, Cinnamon Writer, Art Effect, AMC and Frying Pan. Aladdin 4D 5.x is an optional Instant Download when you buy an ARES ONE. Price is an attractive discounted price since it is being purchased as part of a system solution. Bonus objects, textures and effects are also included as part of the ID. Aladdin 4D 5.x operating system integration is also available as an option for MorphOS & Amiga OS 4.x if those developers choose to partner with DiscreetFX. Purchase an ARES ONE & Aladdin 4D 5.x together and get lighting fast 3D renders and animations.

The ARES ONE is only sold through Vesalia Online

http://www.vesalia.de/e_aresone2010.htm

http://www.vesalia.de/e_aresone.htm


About DiscreetFX


Want to see DiscreetFX’s effects software in action? Turn on your television, we have been creating visual effects software products for editors and creative professionals for over 15 years. DiscreetFX creates Real-time transitions and effects seen on over 100 television programs including Blind Date, 5th Wheel, Shipmates and many more! You can also see DiscreetFX software used on the following networks HBO, Showtime, Discovery Channel, PBS, Fox and more!
DiscreetFX is privately owned visual effects startup and based in Chicago, Illinois. For more information, please visit:

www.discreetfx.com.

About ARES Computer

ARES Computer (owner Pascal Papara) started in 2009 to bring AROS enthusiast and newbies a powerful but inexpensive, fully AROS-compatible System. The result was the AresOne and his now available successor (www.vesalia.de).

With Broadway, AMC, the ultimate MediaCenter for all three Amiga-like Systems (AmigaOS/AROS and MorphOS) and the coming app-browser(working title), we are aiming also to non- amigans. Our longtime target is to get back a healthy and commercial interesting Amiga eco system.

klx300r
08-28-2010, 09:39 PM
good news but please tell us when v6 is coming out...September is already here now & still no news????

Piru
08-29-2010, 03:07 AM
Integration as-in "running in UAE"?

I'll pass, thank you.

phoenixkonsole
08-29-2010, 05:00 AM
Integration means:
running via JanusUAE, shared clipboards (AROS/AmigaOS), Coherency mode

It feels(a little bit) like running Classic on OS X.

It is just an offer and since AROS is missing such a software and others, why shouldn't we use JanusUAE and well made, productive applications?

Especially i'm curios which "Integration" gives better compatibility and speed.
I don't mean theoretical speed - i mean real life performance.

Piru
08-29-2010, 05:12 AM
Integration means:
running via JanusUAE, shared clipboards (AROS/AmigaOS), Coherency mode

It feels(a little bit) like running Classic on OS X.
For me integration means more than repackaging your old 68k apps. As I said, I'll pass.

Mazze
08-29-2010, 05:18 AM
As I said, I'll pass.

Who cares?

Tension
08-29-2010, 07:00 AM
Thank God that was for immediate release.

Pyromania
08-29-2010, 08:52 AM
For me integration means more than repackaging your old 68k apps. As I said, I'll pass.

Aladdin 4D 6.0 will be native for MorphOS of course. Unfortunately that version does not yet have an official shipping date. Over 3000 hours have gone into the development of 6.0 and Aladdin 4D 6.0 Stable release 6.0.0.6 (Internal Beta) came out on July 12th, 2010.

Piru
08-29-2010, 09:21 AM
Aladdin 4D 6.0 will be native for MorphOS of course. Unfortunately that version does not yet have an official shipping date. Over 3000 hours have gone into the development of 6.0 and Aladdin 4D 6.0 Stable release 6.0.0.6 (Internal Beta) came out on July 12th, 2010.
How about those screenshots (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=572494&postcount=5)?

Also does this mean you will be missing your september 2010 deadline? (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=574929&postcount=3)

B00tDisk
08-29-2010, 10:44 AM
Don't worry; they'll post an advertisement up on wikipedia soon!

SysAdmin
08-29-2010, 10:56 AM
Don't worry; they'll post an advertisement up on wikipedia soon!

Aladdin 4D information is available via the link below.

www.aladdin4d.com

Piru
08-29-2010, 12:16 PM
Don't worry; they'll post an advertisement up on wikipedia soon!
"This article needs references that appear in reliable third-party publications. Primary sources or sources affiliated with the subject are generally not sufficient for a Wikipedia article. Please add more appropriate citations from reliable sources. (December 2006)"

"This page is nothing but an advertisement and should either be rewritten from an NPOV or removed entirely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.8.82.95 (talk) 13:57, 20 August 2009 (UTC)"

Pyromania
08-29-2010, 01:19 PM
"This article needs references that appear in reliable third-party publications. Primary sources or sources affiliated with the subject are generally not sufficient for a Wikipedia article. Please add more appropriate citations from reliable sources. (December 2006)""

The Wikipedia entry for LightWave 3D has this too. What's your point?

Piru
08-29-2010, 02:56 PM
The Wikipedia entry for LightWave 3D has this too. What's your point?
No point other than that the article doesn't seem to be objective. Reads much like advertising.

BTW, where are the screenshots of Aladding 4D 6? Also, are you going to miss the deadline of September 2010?
those of us who bought last year were promised v6 for Amiga OS4.1 by September of this year else we get our money back and get to keep v5.0

B00tDisk
08-29-2010, 03:18 PM
No point other than that the article doesn't seem to be objective. Reads much like advertising.


It isn't "much like" advertising, it IS an advertisement. Ad copy, nothing more. And it should either be fixed to be objective or it should be taken down.

Boudicca
08-29-2010, 03:23 PM
No point other than that the article doesn't seem to be objective. Reads much like advertising.

BTW, where are the screenshots of Aladding 4D 6? Also, are you going to miss the deadline of September 2010?

Piru I hate to agree with you but I will :). Are we renaming Amiga.Org sponsored by Aladdin 3Dee introducing ARES for all your computer needs. News....is for reporting the news, not making the news. I did feel this was an advert not news !. Better luck next time.

TBH I think the powers that be should ask outside the "interested parties" to report on the "news" rather than reporting it themselves, pls. Cheers. Lets not become the mouthpiece of the owner, that would be rather unwise.

Pyromania
08-29-2010, 03:25 PM
It isn't "much like" advertising, it IS an advertisement. Ad copy, nothing more. And it should either be fixed to be objective or it should be taken down.

LOL, your very passionate about one of the greatest evils in the world. A4D being on Wikipedia, better hobbies can be found.

@Boudicca
This was Pascal's idea not mine, but he does have a great bundle of hardware that works well with AROS and nice software including Amiga Forever 2009 OEM, Frying Pan, Etc. He is doing a lot to help the AROS market. You could always ignore this news if it does not interest you. It is of interest to AROS users and Amiga.org does not discriminate. AROS, MorphOS, Amiga OS 4.x and classic Amiga users are all welcome here. We even like Draco and Amiga Forever users too.

:)

Boudicca
08-29-2010, 03:28 PM
LOL, your very passionate about one of the greatest evils in the world. A4D being on Wikipedia, better hobbies can be found.

@Boudicca

This was Pascals idea not mind, but he does have a great bundle of hardware that works will AROS and nice software. He is doing a lot to help the AROS market.

Then report it, don't sell it pls ;)

Pyromania
08-29-2010, 03:37 PM
Then report it, don't sell it pls ;)

We don't sell it, it's sold here.

http://www.vesalia.de/e_aresone2010.htm

Piru
08-29-2010, 03:43 PM
We don't sell it, it's sold here.

http://www.vesalia.de/e_aresone2010.htm

I assume you're not interested in replying any of my questions then?

Pyromania
08-29-2010, 03:49 PM
@Piru

About screen shots and ship date? As a software developer yourself you know very well about the difficulty in completing software, tracking down bugs and delivering a quality product to customers. Aladdin 4D 6.0 required major heart and guts surgery to make it multi-platform and ready. It was neglected for ten years before we got it. I'll allow it to be sold when I'm happy that it's of a high enough quality for customers.

Piru
08-29-2010, 03:56 PM
@Piru

About screen shots and ship date? As a software developer yourself you know very well about the difficulty in completing software, tracking down bugs and delivering a quality product to customers.
Yes. I also know about such things as meeting a deadline and keeping one's promises and/or not promising something you cannot deliver.
Aladdin 4D 6.0 required major heart and guts surgery to make it multi-platform and ready. It was neglected for ten years before we got it. I'll allow it to be sold when I'm happy that it's of a high enough quality for customers.
I'll interpret that as "no screenshots anytime soon" and "yes, we will miss the deadline and pay back some of our customers as promised".

klx300r
08-29-2010, 05:04 PM
No point other than that the article doesn't seem to be objective. Reads much like advertising.

BTW, where are the screenshots of Aladding 4D 6? Also, are you going to miss the deadline of September 2010?

I'm sure the majority of us don't mind waiting to get the new Aladdin V6.x a little later than expected...I personally am happy just knowing that DiscreetFX is supporting Amiga software and couldnt care less for a self imposed deadline BUT it would be nice to have more frequent updates on the new version and please some screenshots:)...also it was mentioned last year that a simple 2D CAD program might be included with Alladin v6.x so any info on this is much appreciated as well

warpdesign
08-29-2010, 06:25 PM
Over 3000 hours have gone into the development of 6.0 and Aladdin 4D 6.0 Stable release 6.0.0.6 (Internal Beta) came out on July 12th, 2010.

I guess it's not a problem to show screenshots since it's already stable, right ?

ferrellsl
08-29-2010, 06:59 PM
@Piru

Since when has ANYTHING is post-Commodore Amiga land been on time or on budget? Give the guy a break. His reasons are valid ones.

Pyromania
08-29-2010, 07:53 PM
I guess it's not a problem to show screenshots since it's already stable, right ?

That's the Mac OS X version.

Vulture
08-30-2010, 11:20 AM
Just a little something about the wikipedia article being an advertisement. Well, I submitted the article about a year ago iirc after Pyromania had asked (I think here in amiga.org) if someone could expand the existing article and not get deleted. So, although there have been some additions to it as I checked it again now (the intended iphone version for example), the bulk of it has remained the same. And, as far as I know I have no affiliation to DiscreetFX and I had no intention to advertise a product through wikipedia. I merely posted (actually expanded an existing tiny) article so that info for an amiga program wouldn't be lost from wikipedia.

ajlwalker
08-30-2010, 12:34 PM
@Vulture

Puts this spat into some perspective. Thanks.

Pyromania
08-31-2010, 11:40 PM
We want to thank everyone for their feedback both positive and negative. We use it to improve our process.

jsixis
09-13-2010, 02:32 PM
will Aladdin be able to use native picasso II screens?

jsixis
09-13-2010, 02:35 PM
@Piru

About screen shots and ship date? As a software developer yourself you know very well about the difficulty in completing software, tracking down bugs and delivering a quality product to customers. Aladdin 4D 6.0 required major heart and guts surgery to make it multi-platform and ready. It was neglected for ten years before we got it. I'll allow it to be sold when I'm happy that it's of a high enough quality for customers.

I agree, better to get it right then to release a problem.

In the old days a lot of programmers released problems after it was hyped up.
It was the #1 reason so many users left

Pyromania
09-13-2010, 03:31 PM
will Aladdin be able to use native picasso II screens?

Sure, you can do that right now with the current version.