Ole-Egil's Debian GNU/Linux on A1G3-SE screenshots [Archive]

Agafaster

06-26-2002, 09:53 AM

eyup ole-egil,

good words, I am thinking of totally boycotting ANN. nothing against Christian et al, but it seems to be more full of Trolls than the Discworld Ramtop mountains !

it is a really negative place.

anyways, have you a digital camera ? if so how bout some piccies of the A1 running Linux/UAE ? that'd be neat !

what GFX card are you using ?

GadgetMaster

06-26-2002, 10:14 AM

I see you have immortalised my thread as a screenshot :-P

:-D

olegil

06-26-2002, 10:16 AM

How could I not? :-D

olegil

06-26-2002, 10:18 AM

anyways, have you a digital camera ? if so how bout some piccies of the A1 running Linux/UAE ? that'd be neat !

Well, I'm too busy right now. Only digital camera here is a set of two video cams hooked up to a computer running in-house developed video software. They are on the net, so it's not impossible. But cannot be done while we have guests here...

what GFX card are you using ?

PC version ATI Rage 3D PCI. 2M memory and no 2D acceleration...

gnarly

06-26-2002, 10:25 AM

Dude, they're like, todally sweet! ;-)

joe_avarage

06-26-2002, 10:31 AM

BTW: Does UAE on PPC have a JIT yet ?

System

06-26-2002, 10:32 AM

As you wrote you didn't take much time browsing back2roots I must still congratulate you on taking shots on my all-time-favorite 9 Fingers from Spaceballs. Now you've made me hook up that old A500 and watch the demo over and over the last hour :)

csirac_

06-26-2002, 10:35 AM

Yay! Debian! This rocks!

I'd definitaely buy an A1 if it was just for Debian... debian rocks ;)

Now if there was a PPC binary for Eagle 4.x (my fav. PCB CAD prg), I'd be set...

Cheers,

- Paul

olegil

06-26-2002, 11:17 AM

Now if there was a PPC binary for Eagle 4.x (my fav. PCB CAD prg), I'd be set...

You as well, eh? My company bought a 2.2GHz P4 for my compiling and Eagle needs at the office :-)

But I really wish there was a ppc version...

4pLaY

06-26-2002, 11:59 AM

You could have posted it to Polarboing ;).

asian1

06-26-2002, 12:02 PM

>Debian GNU Linux on Amiga 1 G3-SE

Great news!!
Who had ported the Debian distribution to the Amiga One board? Is it Yellow Dog?

There are 3 other Linux distros for Amiga One:
1. Turbo Linux for MAI Teron CX.
2. Amiga-Linux.de.vu: Mandrake PowerPC 8.2 and Suse PowerPC.

redrumloa

06-26-2002, 12:46 PM

@olegil

Good freakin work!! :-D I am SOOOOO jealous! Won't be long now though... Once again good work!
:-o

Coder

06-26-2002, 12:55 PM

olegil is one lucky man. Don't tell me you had no space to test it and you were forced to take a room in the Playboy mansion.

Coder

FarQuad

06-26-2002, 02:28 PM

@olegil,

Mixed emotions here.

First, thanks for supporting Amiga.org -- I know I tend to be on the negative side, but I guarantee Wayne and crew deserve a round of beers for all they put up with. I know I'm tossing my hat in the "$5.00 per month donation" hat. I'd hate to be stuck with the likes of ANN as the sole source of news and commentary. (no offense intended to the owner of that site, just the rabid visitors).

Secondly, I find myself feeling both glad to see *something* running on the overpriced, underpowered PPC solution, but dismayed to see it's only Linux, which I'm running on at least one box here...

It's hard to get excited about seeing something that you know can easily be done much faster for much, much cheaper.

//FarQ

Coder

06-26-2002, 02:54 PM

It's hard to get excited about seeing something that you know can easily be done much faster for much, much cheaper.

When OS4 is running on it we will be happy. At least wih Linux there is something running on those boards. And it might attract some Linux freaks to buy the board. Personally I do not care for Linux. It's fun, but that's it. It is OS4 that counts.

Coder

FarQuad

06-26-2002, 03:08 PM

When OS4 is running on it we will be happy. At least wih Linux there is something running on those boards.Sorry, I thought that's what I said. Maybe with OS5.0 is running, we'll be happy, but Linux doesn't excite me.

And it might attract some Linux freaks to buy the board.Very optimistic, but also very doubtful. As I said, most Linux users are fine running much cheaper and faster hardware. Only those who have a strong, irrational hatred of Intel would be even remotely interested. Of course, if Mac's OSX ran on it, it'd be an INSTANT hit for the masses.

Seehund

06-26-2002, 03:15 PM

http://themes.freshmeat.net/ is another good resource for screenshots of window managers and desktop environments for X.

http://sunshineinabag.co.uk/ have a bunch of particularly purdy themes for GNOME. For KDE, check out http://www.kdelook.org/.

I know there might not be much news around, but come on, X screenshots??

Something I would like to know is if the 4th PCI slot is usable simultaneously with the AGP slot, as Eyetech promised? If so, what effects does that have on the PCI and AGP bus speed respectively? That is if you're allowed to tell us, Ole-Egil (or anyone else with a mobo).

redfox

06-26-2002, 03:47 PM

olegil

Thanks for sharing these screenshots with us ... :-D

I'm happy to see real programs running on the A1G3-SE.
_________
redfox

redrumloa

06-26-2002, 04:08 PM

I know there might not be much news around, but come on, X screenshots??

Sehund, there is GOOD reason for him to show these. Just a few days ago i was ready comments(not on here) that the A1G3 was not running ANYTHING, and would never run ANYTHING.

That being said, who's to say OS4.0 isn't running on any of these boards? There is no information either way.

Seehund

06-26-2002, 05:48 PM

Redrumloa,

Sehund, there is GOOD reason for him to show these. Just a few days ago i was ready comments(not on here) that the A1G3 was not running ANYTHING, and would never run ANYTHING.

It's been running Linux since August last year, so I'm just questioning how newsworthy this is. It would've suited better in the forum where someone was asking for screenshots IMO. Come back when at least ExecSG can be shown booting to a rudimentary CLI.

I'm not trying to be unappreciative of the gesture, but it's amusing to see some X screenshots being received as the second coming of Christ. :)

If some moron is claiming that hardware that's been in production and sold with a Linux distro for almost a year isn't running any OS at all and never will, then I don't think a bunch of screenshots is going to convince him/her otherwise (for someone thinking like that this is no proof anyway as screenshots like these could have been made on anything out there running any OS that has an X port). Also, we've already seen a craptacular MPEG showing Linux, X, WindowMaker(?) and a few standard apps running - that ought to be proof enough for anyone that not even Eyetech are being conned into buying vapourware this time.

Seehund

06-26-2002, 05:55 PM

Oh, another thing that could be of slight interest: How long did compiling Moz and mplayer take on this box? Any other benchmarks?

Kronos

06-26-2002, 06:13 PM

BTW: Does UAE on PPC have a JIT yet ?

No !

anarchic_teapot

06-26-2002, 06:27 PM

Seehund wrote:
It's been running Linux since August last year
The version of Linux seen running on the prototype board in March 2002 was TurboLinux, an old distribution specially tweaked to run on the Teron boards. Not only is it no longer supported by TurboLinux, there are a number of features on the board that aren't even supported by the kernel. Like USB.

The version of Debian Ole-Egil shows running on his mobo, and the version of SuSE seen running on mine, are both modern kernels, supporting USB, recent graphics cards, etc. and are the result of work done by the A1 dev team. It is the first time mainstream desktop Linux distros have run on this type of board.

Coder

06-26-2002, 06:46 PM

That being said, who's to say OS4.0 isn't running on any of these boards? There is no information either way.

Does it not boot on the boards? Read it here somewhere. Booting is nice but does it it do anything else?

Coder

redrumloa

06-26-2002, 06:50 PM

Does it not boot on the boards? Read it here somewhere. Booting is nice but does it it do anything else?

Shhhh.. Be vewwy vewwy carefull..

The answer to that question is on the list..not here.....

Coder

06-26-2002, 07:00 PM

Shhhh.. Be vewwy vewwy carefull..

I am. Did read something about in Amiga.org and for the rest I did not see anything on the list about it. I only mention public known things.

Coder

Seehund

06-26-2002, 08:31 PM

anarchic_teapot,

Uh, what was the point of that reply? Woody is running 2.4.18 with Tom Gall's Teron patches. And?

Yesterday I installed Slackware and compiled the latest ac-patched 2.4.19 kernel for my poor little box I'm toying around with using as e.g. an mp3-server/player, which I originally had a homerolled "distro" on. This is the first time a mainstream desktop Linux distro runs on my mp3 box! BFD! Unfortunately I don't run X there, so you can't have any screenshots... :-P

Linux is Linux is Linux. Tweak your kernel and distro all you want. X screenshots is not News.

Or has the "A1 dev team" started kernel-hacking and rewriting existing drivers/modules? Heh. :D

[edit: gddamnit, I don't want any bleeding GIF smileys...]
[edit again: WTF? Begone, misinterpreted GIFfy spawn of Lucifer! "Disable Smiley"! "Disable Smiley"!]

Hammer

06-27-2002, 01:09 AM

Only those who have a strong, irrational hatred of Intel would be even remotely interested.
Don’t forget AMD, the new custodian for x86 platform, since Intel may well abandon x86 with the release of Itanium.

olegil

06-27-2002, 05:50 AM

Duh, how the #### do I test the PCI and AGP combo when my only gfx card is a PCI Rage 3D?

olegil

06-27-2002, 05:51 AM

http://sunshineinabag.co.uk/ have a bunch of particularly purdy themes for GNOME. For KDE, check out http://www.kdelook.org/.

The day I run either KDE or Gnome you'll know I'm considering suicide as well. And you can quote me on that. :-x

olegil

06-27-2002, 05:56 AM

Linux is Linux is Linux. Tweak your kernel and distro all you want. X screenshots is not News.

Ah, ok. So I'll just shut up, then?

Righty ho. Goodbye, loosers. I'll be playing with my AmigaOne instead of visiting amiga.org any further, thats for sure.

Coder

06-27-2002, 07:47 AM

Hi olegil,

Righty ho. Goodbye, loosers. I'll be playing with my AmigaOne instead of visiting amiga.org any further, thats for sure.

STAY! Don't let yourself go by 1 flamer. They are here sometimes. Some few days ago we had someone putting up disgusting pictures. That has been taken care of.

Coder

Orgin

06-27-2002, 09:36 AM

olegil wrote:
Ah, ok. So I'll just shut up, then?

Don't worry about it. Keep us updated with what you do, it's fun reading about it. Just ignore the low lifes that still roams the community. If more people just ignored useless bad comments then Amiga boards would become good places to be given time.

Feed the beast and it will live on forever.

/Björn

Seehund

06-27-2002, 02:04 PM

olegil,

The day I run either KDE or Gnome you'll know I'm considering suicide as well. And you can quote me on that.

Heh. That's something I can sympathise with! :)

BTW, GNOME 2.0 was released yesterday, and it's even supposed to be "fast". I hear Nautilus on a 2+ GHz system will even open a file list almost as fast as DOpus on a 25 MHz 040...

Seehund

06-27-2002, 02:13 PM

Ah, ok. So I'll just shut up, then?

Come on, now you're just being silly, Ole-Egil.
You're reading too much into things, nobody's flamed or attacked you.

anarchic_teapot

06-27-2002, 02:47 PM

Seehund wrote: Or has the "A1 dev team" started kernel-hacking and rewriting existing drivers/modules?

No, we've been sitting on our bums staring at an empty screen.

Pfft. Ole-Egil's got the right idea: there's more fun to be had playing with the A1 than posting here.

Coder

06-27-2002, 02:54 PM

there's more fun to be had playing with the A1 than posting here.

Come on, you don't mean that. :-D

Coder

whabang

06-27-2002, 02:58 PM

there's more fun to be had playing with the A1 than posting here.
WAAAAAAH!! You mean! :cry: :cry: :cry:

redrumloa

06-27-2002, 03:10 PM

Righty ho. Goodbye, loosers. I'll be playing with my AmigaOne instead of visiting amiga.org any further, thats for sure.

Come on now! Just because Seehund is being Seehund means the whole lot of us are losers?

Have a beer, play with your A1G3 a bit, and come right back to A-Org!
:-D

Seehund

06-28-2002, 01:25 PM

anarchic_teapot wrote:

Seehund wrote:

Or has the "A1 dev team" started kernel-hacking and rewriting existing drivers/modules?

No, we've been sitting on our bums staring at an empty screen.

From where can we download your GPLed modifications to GNU/Linux components then?

(I presume nobody outside the Hyperion team has access to any OS4/ExecSG alpha versions)

What exactly is the "A1 dev team" (apart from a bunch of customers who bought a PPC mobo) and what are your projects until there's any sign of an AmigaOS4 beta release?

Yeah, yeah, NDA... But you're free to tell us about any Linux-based development.

Seehund

06-28-2002, 01:29 PM

redrumloa wrote:

Come on now! Just because Seehund is being Seehund means the whole lot of us are losers?

Heh. :) From here on a "Seehund" is the official euphemism for "someone who questions the newsworthiness of a news item". :)

Have a beer, play with your A1G3 a bit, and come right back to A-Org!

Hear, hear!

Kronos

06-29-2002, 06:05 AM

From where can we download your GPLed modifications to GNU/Linux components then?

Probraly nowhere (atm) !
But if you read the GPL and the FAQ about it you'll find that it
is o.k. so, as long as they don't distrobute a binary-only version.

Kees

07-06-2002, 05:34 PM

read 12776 times

Thank you slashdot for all the hits :-))

jaokim

08-10-2002, 07:02 PM

A little bit of topic here, but...
This screenshot with kickstart 3.9 (http://www.samfundet.no/~olegil/amiga/screen7.jpg), is this something that will come real? Is AOS4.0 shipping with new rom? Why else would someone develop one, and ask ole-egil to betatest it? :-o

I'm intriged...