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hamtronix
08-23-2007, 06:36 AM
What type of display do you use and how is it output from the Amiga?
I currently use the color composite out from a genlock card in my video slot to a 8.1 inch LCD TV. I am in the process of trying to find a 9 pin monitor to plug into the output from FF.
alexh
08-23-2007, 06:40 AM
The main Amiga I use a Picasso IV scandoubler, IIyama VisionMaster Pro 450 19" CRT monitor. (Supports 50Hz, 60Hz and 100Hz).
The A600 I use an RGB SCART cable to a 36" 4:3 Bush SD CRT TV.
(Damn, so many abbreviations)
madsjm
08-23-2007, 06:55 AM
I have a PicassoIV in my A4000, so I use a huge Eizo crt, which I also use for my pc. The A4000 is connected to bnc connectors in the back of the monitor.
My A500 is usually connected to a 1084S, or sometimes to a tv through scart.
My CD32s are usually connected to a tv through the standard composite cables.
MrZammler
08-23-2007, 07:00 AM
PicassoIV here too, on the A3000, to a 17'' Viewsonic VGA monitor.
My A1200 is connected to a 1084S through RGB.
skurk
08-23-2007, 07:00 AM
A600, C64 and C128: 15" LCD TV(SCART)
A4000: 17" LCD monitor (PIV)
Tahoe
08-23-2007, 07:14 AM
Amiga's without either a flicker fixer or a GFX card: an Amiga 1764 monitor (MultiSync)
With Flicker Fixer or GFX card: HP P1130 22" CRT
Jiffy
08-23-2007, 07:49 AM
My A1200 (with flickerfixer) and A2000 (with flickerfixer and CV643D) both have a 15" Compaq V500 CRT. My A3000 (with CV64) uses a 17" Eizo F764 CRT.
I don't use any of my Amigas as a maincomputer, so there are no plans to upgrade them with new monitors.
wildstar1063
08-23-2007, 08:55 AM
I have s Cybervision 64/3D card conected to A Samsung
Syncmaster 170MP Monitor/TV (CyberGraphX SOftware)
I Saw the Syncmaster in BBoE listed as one that can
handle amiga resolutions.
Wildstar1063
AMIGAZ
08-23-2007, 09:10 AM
Mostly using an elextronic monitor switch connected to my scandoubler and gfx card
The monitor i use is a Sony Multiscan E200 17inch Trintron
for backup use I have a Nec 3D Multisync and a Philips CM 8833-II
g7syj
08-23-2007, 09:33 AM
i use a a1200 with cm-345s and 22in belinea artistline
and it works a treat
Varthall
08-23-2007, 10:11 AM
On my AmigaOne, a bog standard Radeon 9200, connected to a 17" CRT monitor.
Varthall
cpfuture
08-23-2007, 10:43 AM
A good old Commodore 1084S via RGB. Way better than the composite RF signal I had hooked up to my TV in the early 90s. ;-)
http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/3829/1_3060.jpg
This is an old photo (http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=719), but the display is pretty much the same: A4000 + CV-3D + scandoubler , SONY 17" Multiscan G200 Trinitron. Unmatched picture quality!
A500/CDTV/CD32 : 1084S through switcher.
A600/A1200 : boxed :-(
rkauer
08-23-2007, 11:50 AM
I have an ooold C=1942 (multisync) to my 500, 2000, 600 & 1200.
And a LG Studioworks 502Si (15") to the Voodoo (1200 only ;-)).
BTW: You guys can put smallest photos, plzzzzz? Have to horizontally roll the screen is annoying!
CLS2086
08-23-2007, 01:29 PM
Old big french CRT in RGB mode :-D
Tenacious
08-23-2007, 01:50 PM
I'm surprised at how many PIV owners there are, I have one too. Also, a Picasso II and a Spectrum in a A2000. I have to use a multi-sync (down to 15 Khz) to get all screens with the Spectrum/A2000. I have several Commodore monitors (1902, 1084ses, and 1950), one or two working, the rest dying or dead. I have more Amigas than good monitors.
We need a 15Khz LCD solution in the states that doesn't require a Scart input (not available in the states).
vic20owner
08-23-2007, 02:07 PM
1084s sometimes... but also a 17" LCD in productivity mode for when I get sick of the flicker and don't need to play games.
I have an external SD on the way.. but it doesn't have a FF built in so I doubt anything will change regarding my current setup.
I am considering hacking the SD so that I can manually disable it for productivity modes... so if a screen doesn't promote to productivity mode correctly I can just press the button to scan double it.
motrucker
08-23-2007, 02:16 PM
A2000 with GVP Spectrum running Cybergraphics to a 21" Samsung CRT.
Also have an old A1000 with a 1080 for vintage games.
Argus
08-24-2007, 05:50 AM
I use a Sony Trinitron 200ES with a Mediator/Voodoo3/A1200T setup.
For regular Amiga modes I have a C= 1950 multisync and a C= 1942 that came with the A1200.
McVenco
08-24-2007, 06:23 AM
I only have an Amiga branded Microvitec M1438S monitor which I use for all my Amiga's. With a VGA->RGB adapter I can also connect it to my CV64/3D, so I don't need a scandoubler.
My CD32, like all my other consoles, is connected via composite/Scart to my 70cm/28" widescreen TV.
Blatboy
08-27-2007, 07:32 AM
by Tenacious on 2007/8/23 15:50:20
We need a 15Khz LCD solution in the states that doesn't require a Scart input (not available in the states).
I'm with him. I'd love to have my A500 on a flat screen!
Right now I'm on an A500 w/a dodgy 1084S.
marcfrick2112
08-27-2007, 09:53 PM
Hmm, no scandoublers or flickerfixers here on any of my Amigas. For my main machine, the A1200T, I use a nifty Toshiba
20" TIMM RGB monitor/TV. Remaining machines have to make due with a mix of old Commodore 1702's and regular TV's....
Iggy_Drougge
09-07-2007, 09:03 PM
For my A4000, I use a Viewsonic VX715 LCD on the graphics card output. It's really sub-optimal since my graphics card can't output such a high resolution, but at least it doesn't take up much space.
For AGA output, I use a Nokia 417TV, a 17" CRT. I used to have it on the graphics card until I found out that it was a multisync, and it's really nice to have something bigger than a 1084.
gdanko
09-07-2007, 10:24 PM
Viewsonic 19" LCD
A4000T - RTG Card, Picasso II+
A2000 - RTG Card, Picasso II and A2320
A3000 - Internal scandoubler
A3000T - Internal scandoubler
A1200 - Adapter
A4000 - N/A
A1000s - N/A
A500s - N/A
A600 - N/A
amigakid
09-07-2007, 10:38 PM
My Amiga 1000 connected to a 1084S-D2, A4000 to a HP CRT and CD32 to a 21" TV.
kvasir
09-07-2007, 11:27 PM
C= 1942 monitor on my 1200 '060, with 800x600x64 super-72 screenmode
cv643d
09-08-2007, 04:25 AM
23 inch widescreen Sony TFT to:
-A4000, CybervisionPPC (running 960x600)
or
-A1200, DCE Scandoubler/FF
Have a couple of old C= monitors but they are going to be sold soon, I rather have TFT than big CRT even though picture quality is slightly fuzzy with the scandoubler on the TFT.
hamtronix
09-08-2007, 06:23 AM
now that I got a 9 to 15 pin I am on an 15 inch NEC MultiSync. Life is sweet. with the FF/SD its all crystal.
AmiBoy
09-08-2007, 07:11 AM
I use a 17" CRT plugged into my Voodoo but with the output from my 1200 MB plugged into my TV card so I can still play classic games. :-)
(Although at the moment my Miggy is down out and)
motrucker
09-08-2007, 08:25 AM
A1200 with 1942, using Super 72, 800x600 (tweaked with Moned, of course) Works better than I would have thought.
A2000 w/GVP Spectrum & Microway FF/SD to Samsung 21" CRT.
A1000 w/1080 (the old games machine)
arnljot
01-21-2008, 04:27 PM
The HP L1906 claims that it has the following specs:
Frequency
Horizontal frequency: 30-83 kHz
Vertical frequency: 50-76 Hz
It's an 19" LCD. Can it be used with a Picasso IV flickerfixer/scandoubler?
My current lennovo screen "almost" makes it with the Picasso IV. But the image has nasty vertical artifacts, and there is an OSD center screen wich says that the image is not able to synch.
EDIT:
The HP LP2065 20-inch LCD Monitor (http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/12377_div/12377_div.HTML) seems even more promising.
Signal Interface/ Performance
Horizontal Frequency 30 to 94 kHz (VGA input); 30 to 92 KHz (DVI input for modes with pixel clock less than 162 MHz)
Vertical Frequency 48 to 85 Hz (VGA input); 48 to 85 Hz (DVI input for modes with pixel clock less than 162 MHz)
EDIT2:
And BenQ also has one on offer:
BenQ FP2092 (http://benq.no/products/LCD/?product=630&page=specifications)
Horizontal Frequency (Max) KHz 30-81
Vertical Frequency (Max)Hz 50-76
Are these usable with a PicassoIV?
Krusher
01-21-2008, 04:42 PM
I use an Asus m3n laptop, 1440x1050 resolution on a 14" display. I have no real Amiga here.
http://www.iki.fi/sintonen/pics/computer_desk_s.jpg
20" + 24" + 20" TFT (http://www.iki.fi/sintonen/pics/computer_desk.jpg)
Total 5120 x 1200 resolution... :-P
I guess if I'd still have my miggy set up I'd use one of the unused VGA-inputs.
TiredOLife
01-21-2008, 05:32 PM
19" TFT with a Voodoo 5500 and TV card for games that won't display through the graphics card.
motrucker
01-21-2008, 07:25 PM
Haven't we been here? How old is this thing
LoadWB
01-21-2008, 08:03 PM
A4000 has a Picasso IV with Dell 2001FP 20.1" LCD
A1200 has a FF/SD with Dell 1901FP 19" LCD
A2000 has AGA2000 FF/SD and Spectrum 28/24, shares monitor with the 1200
A500 has an internal FF/SD and uses whatever is around
Incidentally, I have a 128D which shares the 2001FP with the A4000. I have the 128D's output connected to the monitor's SVHS input.
The only one that doesn't look right is the output of the 1200. It scales a weird way on the monitor, but is still usable. The 4000 is set for 1280x1024x24, but that res causes some weird artifacting on the Workbench moving icons around; it might be a memory or bus problem on the card, but all other resolutions work perfectly. The 2000 is 800x600x24, looks nice.
Oddly enough, the A500 looks absolutely perfect on all monitors.
I have a 24" TFT hooked up to my AmigaOne with a Radeon 9200.
My old A1200T is hooked up to a 17" flat screen CRT using a combination of Voodoo 3 and scandoubled native display.
LoadWB
01-21-2008, 08:59 PM
arnljot wrote:
My current lennovo screen "almost" makes it with the Picasso IV. But the image has nasty vertical artifacts, and there is an OSD center screen wich says that the image is not able to synch.
I absolutely adore monitors which will show a perfect picture, other than the square in the middle of the screen complaining about "input out of range" or similar ilk. :crazy:
orange
01-22-2008, 12:30 AM
I'm on 1084 with RGB, it beats both PicassoIV and Amber card in color quality.
I mainly use an LG 17" MonitorTV for Amiga stuff.
RGB SCART, S-video, composite, 15kHz capable VGA connector. Suits Amiga and C-64 use just fine.
I guess what makes it a MonitorTV instead of being a normal TFT TV with added computer input is the 1280x1024 native resolution.
Akira
01-22-2008, 02:29 AM
I want a scando!
Until then, I am using my A1200 on Productivity mode through a Syncmaster 3 14" VGA monitor, and may there be need for some gaming, I have besides it a PSOne mini LCD screen. Works fine for me! it's also good for carrying around (to a demoparty, for example ;))
hbarcellos
01-22-2008, 02:51 AM
Me too. I want a scandoubler. Meanwhile I'm using an old 1084 in my A1200. Original cable! Very nice picture.
Can't believe that scandoublers are that difficult to produce nowadays.
gertsy
01-22-2008, 04:16 AM
I use a good ole 1084S (With the door missing) via rgb on my A500 and an Hitach 15" LCD on my A2000 and A1200. It scans at 15.6k fine and 31.2 Euro72 on the A1200.
A Piccy of my dusty A2000
http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=2230=13
:-D
tekopaa
01-22-2008, 04:22 AM
Nec Multisync 3D now!
2 years ago i had Nokia 447TV it was awesome but really too big for my apartment :/ :roll:
arnljot
01-22-2008, 04:35 AM
@gertsy
A Piccy of my dusty A2000
http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=2230=13
:-D
eeeww... That's dusty! :)
@orange
I'm on 1084 with RGB, it beats both PicassoIV and Amber card in color quality.
I'm sure, but I want the size (w x h) and save the space (depth).
@LoadWB
arnljot wrote:
I absolutely adore monitors which will show a perfect picture, other than the square in the middle of the screen complaining about "input out of range" or similar ilk. :crazy:
We'll it does complain about "input out of range", but it's not perfect. It's not only the square, but also a lot of "wobbly" vertical lines in the picture.
@LoadWB again
A4000 has a Picasso IV with Dell 2001FP 20.1" LCD
A1200 has a FF/SD with Dell 1901FP 19" LCD
A2000 has AGA2000 FF/SD and Spectrum 28/24, shares monitor with the 1200
A500 has an internal FF/SD and uses whatever is around
Do you use all of these computers?? :idea:
That's one impressive collection...
@motrucker
Haven't we been here? How old is this thing
Yeah, all of you others have. I'm just new here and wanted to participate :-)
Blatboy
01-22-2008, 07:39 AM
Wow... I didn't realize that you could have a composite connector on an affordable LCD monitor... while the Dell 2001FP 20.1" LCD that you use isn't the newest thing, they are still available. I could even use that with my C64 and my A2600 in theory, yes?
Anyone else have any LCD monitors that have a composite connection? Is there a way to go from the A500 to a VGA connection?
Er, and I'm new around these parts... what's FF/SD?
Thanks :-D
Blatboy
01-22-2008, 07:44 AM
LoadWB wrote:
A4000 has a Picasso IV with Dell 2001FP 20.1" LCD
A1200 has a FF/SD with Dell 1901FP 19" LCD
A2000 has AGA2000 FF/SD and Spectrum 28/24, shares monitor with the 1200
A500 has an internal FF/SD and uses whatever is around
Incidentally, I have a 128D which shares the 2001FP with the A4000. I have the 128D's output connected to the monitor's SVHS input.
/snip
Oddly enough, the A500 looks absolutely perfect on all monitors.
Wow... I didn't realize that you could have a composite connector on an affordable LCD monitor... while the Dell 2001FP 20.1" LCD that you use isn't the newest thing, they are still available. I could even use that with my C64 and my A2600 in theory, yes?
Anyone else have any LCD monitors that have a composite connection? Is there a way to go from the A500 to a VGA connection? Did the 128D have something other than a composite video output?
Er, and I'm new around these parts... what's FF/SD?
I've been hoping for a flat screen monitor that I can use with my A500, C64, and Atari 2600... and if it had S-Video also, or some other type of analog (or digital) input I could use to pipe from my video converter from my Mac, that would be swell too. That Dell may be the ticket... Any other ideas?
Thanks!
w
ps Sorry for the double post. Is there a way to delete a post? Couldn't find it here... :eek:
swift240
01-22-2008, 07:50 AM
I use a Mediator with Voodoo 3 graphics card going to a HP Pavilion MX70 17" monitor and an RGB lead coming from the Amiga Video output to a Philips CM8833-II monitor for any 15Khz program getting the best of the both.
Mike.
:-)
AeroMan
01-22-2008, 07:54 AM
My 1200 has a good and old 1084S. I used to connect a TV using the video output at the same time (looks cool :-) )
Krusher
01-22-2008, 08:24 AM
Upgrade :-D After spending too much time behind a 14" laptop screen, I decided enough is enough so I bought me a 22" widescreen TFT.
http://tweakers.net/ext/f/qR27csgGk38J83fx2WEuMDMu/full.jpg
Tons of space on the Workbench :-o
ddniUK
01-22-2008, 08:30 AM
12inch black and white tv
DoogUK
01-22-2008, 08:43 AM
1084s on the 1200
1084s on the 2000
1084s on the 600
nostalgia all the way! :-D
LoadWB
01-22-2008, 08:50 AM
Blatboy wrote:
Anyone else have any LCD monitors that have a composite connection? Is there a way to go from the A500 to a VGA connection? Did the 128D have something other than a composite video output?
The 128 has RGBI, which I think is CGA, at the 9-pin port. The video port on the 128 and 64 puts out a composite signal as well as luma and chroma, the later two being the components of an S-Video signal.
Er, and I'm new around these parts... what's FF/SD?
Flicker Fixer / Scan Doubler. The SD part essentialy up-clocks the output of the Amiga's 15kHz video to ~31kHz so it can be used on modern monitors. The FF part deinterlaces interlaced screen modes to eliminate the flicker.
I've been hoping for a flat screen monitor that I can use with my A500, C64, and Atari 2600... and if it had S-Video also, or some other type of analog (or digital) input I could use to pipe from my video converter from my Mac, that would be swell too. That Dell may be the ticket... Any other ideas?
I have seen projects online for converting the 7800 and 5200 output to S-Video (requires internal components and soldering,) and I believe you can get composite from the 2600, then split that into S-Video. Splitting composite into S-Video signals is dirty and often produces very poor results, but it's usable: I have a simple adapter on my VCR to produce S-Video to the TV.
LoadWB
01-22-2008, 08:53 AM
@DoogUK
Is that a single 1084S, or are you lucky enough to have three working units?
@Krusher
Shouldn't a Terminatrix have shorter hair? At least for promo pics?? :-D
DoogUK
01-22-2008, 08:55 AM
3 working ones :-D
Krusher
01-22-2008, 08:57 AM
LoadWB wrote:
...
@Krusher
Shouldn't a Terminatrix have shorter hair? At least for promo pics?? :-D
Noooooo
No messing with long haired girls, especially not when she's Summer Glau :-D Besides, I'd like to fantasize about her boobs :-P
A4000 Z7 Tower:
Quad CRT displays :-)
Cybppc @ 1024*768 16bit Hansol 700p
CV64 @ 1024*768 16bit Hansol 710p
AGA @ various Microvitec Multisync
VlabMotion @ 768*576 24bit Philips CM8833
Wol.
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