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keropi
01-01-2007, 05:14 PM
What lib is the best to use? it is confusing as dates do not match version numbers!!!!

The 060 library os3.9 installs is version 46.15 and is dated 10/05/2001
also there is the 46.7 version by phase5 that is dated 10/16/1999 ... 2 years older but with higher version number...

any info on that? :-?

Floid
01-01-2007, 05:22 PM
15 is > 7, although I have no idea what's suggested.

Piru
01-01-2007, 05:24 PM
This is not the same library, so comparing version numbers is pointless.

If you use phase5 hardware, use the phase5 libraries.

keropi
01-01-2007, 05:29 PM
yes, I use a MK2/060 and a 060csppc, so Piru, I must use the 1999 p5 library , correct?

and 46.70 is greater than 46.15 ... it is 46.70 not 46.07 ....

Piru
01-01-2007, 05:32 PM
yes, I use a MK2/060 and a 060csppc, so Piru, I must use the 1999 p5 library , correct?
Yes.
and 46.70 is greater than 46.15 ... it is 46.70 not 46.07 ....
Nope. Version and revision numbers are separate, it's isn't a decimal number. 46.7 is not equal to 46.70.

keropi
01-01-2007, 05:35 PM
so Piru, the libs on DJBase's unofficial g-rex site are wrong? because they install the 46.15 version ... ?

thanks for the revision clear-up, I just treated versions are normal numbers...

lurkist
01-01-2007, 05:37 PM
Version numbers are definitely confusing.

Look at where the "decimal" point is. (I know it's not a decimal number, but many users confuse it with one).

.15 is smaller than .7

It would be okay if everyone stuck with this, but different developers see it different ways.

Piru
01-01-2007, 05:40 PM
@lurkist

Libraries always use separate version and revision.

Piru
01-01-2007, 05:43 PM
@keropi
so Piru, the libs on DJBase's unofficial g-rex site are wrong? because they install the 46.15 version ... ?
No. You forget that these are different libraries. This 46.15 provided with the "Libraries_2.2.lha" is the phase5/dce one.
68060.library 46.15 (05.10.2001)
© 1994-2000 by Ralph Schmidt

Hmm just reading the message again. You're saying AmigaOS 3.9 installs this particular library? I somewhat doubt that... IIRC H&P AOS (3.5, 3.9) didn't provide or install any 3rd party libraries.

keropi
01-01-2007, 05:53 PM
maybe u are correct about the 3.9 060 lib, I used the emergency disk and manually copied the 46.15 lib there, so I guess it was copied with the OS too...
still it is nice to find that 46.15 is the latest and sure lib to use, thanks!

adolescent
01-01-2007, 06:00 PM
There is no 68060.library included in OS3.9. It is copied from your existing install when you create an emergency floppy and then copied to the new install when you run the installer.

Piru
01-01-2007, 06:14 PM
Right, so in this case both libraries were the same series after all (p5), and comparing version numbers is ok.

I do remember some other 68060 libraries though (at least 2 other than the p5 ones). Can be a bit confusing at times.. ;-)

SyrTran
01-01-2007, 09:44 PM
keropi wrote:
yes, I use a MK2/060 and a 060csppc, so Piru, I must use the 1999 p5 library , correct?

and 46.70 is greater than 46.15 ... it is 46.70 not 46.07 ....
Version numbers for software are not like decimal fractions. 46.7 is read as Version 46 revision 7. Similarly, 46.15 is Version 46 revision 15. The decimal point/full stop is simply a convenient separator - like the / in dates or the '-' in this sentence. So, in the case of software version numbers, 46.15 > 46.7.

quenthal
06-28-2007, 10:16 AM
@Piru:

Piru wrote:
I do remember some other 68060 libraries though (at least 2 other than the p5 ones). Can be a bit confusing at times.. ;-)

What do you think about Thor's 68060.library - is it recommended over phase5 one?

buzz
06-28-2007, 10:49 AM
I use the thor ones with my csppc. They seem to work fine for me. They use the mmu.library instead of manually setting up the mmu etc, and also they allow for vmm (like with memory.library - although you would need to write your app to support this). You may need to run p5integrate also (Supplies undocumented p5 calls for mmulib 68040/060 libraries)

quenthal
06-28-2007, 11:34 AM
As I'm also using CSPPC, I'm not sure if p5integrate is required, I thought it was for BPPC?

Do you think there is any difference regarding performance/compatability (other than MMULib "compliancy"?)