OS4 on Pear PC ????

[SHADES]

@ all

Not sure how legal this is or if it's even true, but an IT dev bloke in my corp claims to have a hacked vers of OS4 that runs under PearPC emulator in windows!

[Lando]

I don't think it's legal (unless he legally acquired OS4) but it's certainly possible. There have been hacked versions of OS4 floating around for ages which run on non-Eyetech hardware, and Mac OS X runs on Pear PC so there's no reason OS4 wouldn't too.

[TheMagicM]

Lando: by non-eyetech hardware do you mean a Pegasos? or ??? It would be interesting to see PearPC running AOS4.. but without pics I'd dismiss it as B.S.

[Argo]

I agree, Show It! I've heard this a few times now, not seen any evidence of it. Not the mention the specs of the PC running PEAR and the benchmarks of Amigs OS 4 on said system.

[Piru]

This message was posted on Pegasos II G4 running Mac OS X 10.4.7.

*giggle*

[SHADES]

He claims it runs under Windos OS.
I don't know him personally, but I found it interesting none the less. Obviously under emulation it can't be as fast, but it's still impressive to think about.

[drHirudo]

This message was posted on µAmigaOne-C running AmigaOS 4 update 4.

*giggle*

[mihcael]

I seen the PPC OS4 thingy on p2p somewhere, maybe eDonkey??

Downloaded it, but i didnt run it as a few things looked a bit dodgy?

Maybe some other person? could try it first??

[Lando]

mihcael wrote:
I seen the PPC OS4 thingy on p2p somewhere, maybe eDonkey??

Downloaded it, but i didnt run it as a few things looked a bit dodgy?

Maybe some other person? could try it first??

I don't think you're allowed to just download it. You have to buy it (ok, it's not possible to buy it either but that's Hyperion's decision - if they don't want to allow people to buy their OS, it still doesn't mean you can download it legally).

But for people who bought an AmigaOne and a legit copy of OS4, or if their AmigaOne has died and they're stuck with a copy of OS4 that they can't use, the non-restricted version would be very useful as they could then run it on a Pegasos or on Windows under PearPC.

[number-one]

mihcael : I downloaded the archive with emule :
"amiga_os4_pre-release_hacked_to_work_with_pearpc_emulator_window s!!!!!!!.rar"
I didnt run it me too :(

[motorollin]

number-one wrote:
mihcael : I downloaded the archive with emule :
"amiga_os4_pre-release_hacked_to_work_with_pearpc_emulator_window s!!!!!!!.rar"
I didnt run it me too :(
It's fake.

--
moto

[Brian]

This message was posted on PC P4/650 running Windows XP SP2.

*barf*

[bak006]

Ther is another ppc emulator named gemu and it's, for me, better than pearpc. Search "powerpc emulator" on google for the link...

Regarding Pearpc...I think that os4 don't run because ther isn't uboot.

Luke

[Piru]

@bak006
Regarding Pearpc...I think that os4 don't run because ther isn't uboot.
So basically you're saying that OS4 has drivers for Mac hardware. That's new...










Seriously now, neither pearpc or qemu emulate AmigaOne HW, thus OS4 will not run on them unless if someone does one of the following:

a) Add Mac (or qemu reported device) hw drivers to OS4
or b) Adjust pearpc or qemu to emulate AmigaOne HW.

[humppa]

Adam Kowalczyk from ACK has already confirmed that he got OS4 running under QEMU.

[Piru]

@humppa

Oh really. Someone must have been busy:


The QEMU PC System emulator simulates the following peripherals:

- i440FX host PCI bridge and PIIX3 PCI to ISA bridge
- Cirrus CLGD 5446 PCI VGA card or dummy VGA card with Bochs VESA
extensions (hardware level, including all non standard modes).
- PS/2 mouse and keyboard
- 2 PCI IDE interfaces with hard disk and CD-ROM support
- Floppy disk
- NE2000 PCI network adapters
- Serial ports
- Creative SoundBlaster 16 sound card
- ENSONIQ AudioPCI ES1370 sound card
- Adlib(OPL2) - Yamaha YM3812 compatible chip
- PCI UHCI USB controller and a virtual USB hub.


What is the definition of "running" here?

[humppa]

@Piru

QEMU supports various target platforms, not only x86 (that you listed). QemuPPC already runs Linux PPC on x86.

What is the definition of "running" here?

Not sure. At least Adam managed to boot it. You could try to modify a Linux kernel in order to access physical hw devices.

[Piru]

@humppa
QEMU supports various target platforms, not only x86 (that you listed).

Right, my mistake. The powerpc systems are:

* PREP (PowerPC processor)
* G3 BW PowerMac (PowerPC processor)
* Mac99 PowerMac (PowerPC processor, in progress)


Thus:

QEMU emulates the following PowerMac peripherals:
- UniNorth PCI Bridge
- PCI VGA compatible card with VESA Bochs Extensions
- 2 PMAC IDE interfaces with hard disk and CD-ROM support
- NE2000 PCI adapters
- Non Volatile RAM
- VIA-CUDA with ADB keyboard and mouse.

QEMU emulates the following PREP peripherals:
- PCI Bridge
- PCI VGA compatible card with VESA Bochs Extensions
- 2 IDE interfaces with hard disk and CD-ROM support
- Floppy disk
- NE2000 network adapters
- Serial port
- PREP Non Volatile RAM
- PC compatible keyboard and mouse.


Yet, to fully be able to boot, drivers for these (either PowerMac or PREP) HW would be needed.

You could try to modify a Linux kernel in order to access physical hw devices.
I'm not sure what the point of the emulation would then be, though.

[DJBase]

Nothing is impossible...

[JJ]

how easy is that screenshot to be faked with somone with a A1 and pc

[humppa]

how easy is that screenshot to be faked with somone with a A1 and pc

Especially when the OS4 screenshot (http://amigos.amiga.hu/dvplayer/images/DvPlayerVOB.png) used for the Photoshopping can be easily found on the net. :-P

[narcea]

Nice image but the OS4 ISO image is actually a Howard Stern clip.

This is clearly seen if you use Gnome's Nautilus file browser.

Otherwise in Windows you'll need to change the file extention to um... .AVI I think.

It's a joke.