View Full Version : the road to the dump is paved with good intentions.
09-17-2004, 08:30 PM
i guess i'm a new user, never having a computer before.
so i'll start at the beginning , while dumpster-diving i came across this funny name on a computer , it sounded like ahh-mig-ah. before i could wrestle it free from some other refuse, the owner of the building came out and said to me ..."if they ever have a dress code for trashers , your the role model"...funny man. anyhow he gave me all the others parts , was almost ready to give it back to him cause of all the parts ...even had a mouse with a cord with knots tied into it..but he insisted that i take it and learn a new trade...so i did ..now i have the parts and all ...kool...then i found out about your place on the net . so now i'm ready . whats next?
09-17-2004, 10:04 PM
What model is it? If it's an A500 it's probably the most common Amiga that was ever built. There's software for free on the Aminet archives (http://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/aminet/) and using Adf2disk (ftp://de.aminet.net/pub/aminet/disk/misc/adf2disk11.lha) you can download a lot of games from Back to the Roots (http://www.back2roots.org/).
09-18-2004, 11:28 AM
i removed some decals and bumper stickers off it ..the nameplate is 3000 and it has a key slot ? guess its a lock? and thanks for the info.
09-18-2004, 01:01 PM
Check this link (http://www.amiga-hardware.com/compod.html) Which one of the Commodore machines is it?
We can help you better if we know exactly what machine you've got. It sounds like you may have an A3000T, which is a great machine.
After you've identified the machine, you'll probably want to pop the cover off to see what hardware you've got inside. If it is a big box Amiga (as opposed to a computer-keyboard-all-in-one unit), there's a very good chance that the battery keeping track of the onboard clock is leaking (the big, blue barrel-shaped thing will have fuzz or blue goo around it). If that's the case, report back here and we'll point you to some starting points for getting rid of it safely.
Oh, since you're new to the Amiga, be sure to remember the most important rule: NEVER plug/unplug ANYTHING from the system while it is on! Circuitry inside can (and likely will) break!
Have fun with it! The Amiga is a fantastic hobby/tweaking machine! It's also fine for contemporary serious work if you don't mind about incompatibility with most file formats on PCs and Macs.
Don't hesitate to ask for more help!
09-18-2004, 01:02 PM
Good intentions? I thought that would be the road to hell!
No, seriously: The A3000 is a very goog Classic Amiga machine. You probably won't need the hardware locking feature.
Most games will run on the A3000. There's a big amount of hardware extension cards for the Zorro slots, too. AFAIRC you could even put a CyberstormPPC processor card inside.
09-20-2004, 07:27 PM
sorry no questions to ask ...to busy reading ...very confusing at first.
09-20-2004, 07:56 PM
wow you are lucky! a3000 was pretty much the best amiga ever made in my opinion.. I sadly never was able to afford one of those myself.
09-20-2004, 08:50 PM
If it actually came out of a dumpster, you might want to have someone electronics-savvy open it up and check for any "shipping damage" before applying power. Leaking batteries are trouble, but loose connectors, or conductive parts rattling around the circuitry inside are more likely to cause immediate damage when the juice is applied.
If it's a 3000T, the keylock on the front is a standard feature of old computer towers (the T would be for the 'tower' case), both IBM-compatibles and not, to allow for 'securing' the system (disabling the keyboard, maybe the Amiga incarnation properly disabled the whole machine) in an office environment. Chances are it's unlocked, and if it's not, it'll be ridiculously easy to bypass (whether by shorting two wires, or just finding a key -- pretty much every case ever made used the same style, and they weren't cut individually or anything like that). Doesn't have anything to do with keeping the case from opening.
Once you've made sure it's free of roach nests, mouse poop, or anything like that, you can plug it all together and see what happens. The Amiga has a "color-code" system for serious hardware problems, so if something major is wrong, the screen will come up in a solid color (like, say, red) and we'll be able to tell you what to do. If everything's okay, and it has a hard drive (that hasn't been damaged), the machine will boot; if it doesn't, you'll get a nice image telling you to insert a floppy, which you can do if the machine came with any -- try a game. (Please blow out the disk slot with some canned air, first!)
If you're wondering what you've got in more general terms -- what you can do with it after it runs -- the performance is on par with, oh.. I'll be killed both ways for this, but let's say a "486," in terms of overall ability. Of course, the Amiga is a whooole lot more fun. :-D
"Desktop publishing," graphics work, analog (VHS-style) video, word processing, and what's now a slightly oldschool form of digital music (the Amiga was basically the first platform where you could work with "samples" of real recordings at all) are all readily possible no matter what software came installed. Internet connectivity and web browsing can be done, but it's a little bit fiddly for a novice to set up (somewhat similar to an older Mac in that aspect, slightly more complicated in that you'll need to track down the right software yourself... and at least Internet Service Providers have heard of Macs).
Beyond the Amiga OS, you can also run various flavors of "UNIX" on it, which was rather a big deal before "Linux" hit it big ("Wow, it's like having your own personal supercomputer!")... Of course, these days you can run Linux on it too. (Something called "NetBSD" is probably better if you'd want to, but that's a story for later, and all of that requires at least one serious nerd to get going.)
...and speaking of Macs, there were/are also ways to "emulate" the older Mac OS on it, but most of that software is now so out of date that it's not worth the trouble. As you'll find out, Apple may have been prettier at times, but the "miggy" was always the more capable machine. ;-)
Careful un-knotting that mouse, it's not something you can replace at the local computer dealer, though there are still places to order spares.
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